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Message 1396948 - Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 11:52:58 UTC

A further link from one of yours & there's no escaping it even though you're trying your best to avoid it.

Migrant chaos in Germany & we're next

"The abuse of social security benefits under the guise of freedom of movement in the EU must be stopped.”

Simple answer, disband the EU & take our borders back.
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Message 1396958 - Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 12:51:46 UTC - in response to Message 1396953.  

My favourite subject certainly isn't about the UK & the EU. I'm just pointing out facts similar to yourself.

Isn't Bulgaria & Romania part of the EU? Don't they have a right under EU law to be here?

Also as you've pointed out in the past about comments I've made which were seen as racist, surely you're not thinking the same?

I'd take a pretty good guess at the nationality of the majority of the rogue landlords involved as well.

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Message 1397501 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 10:58:34 UTC

Germany has a problem with them, France too plus the UK on top. Hang on a minute,
aren't we three countries the leading players in Europe?? Seems to me then that
we don't, even together, have much control over Brussels regarding immigration and
the likes. Still, I would have thought that just a curt letter from our three
countries "telling" Brussels to immediately suspend the immigration laws till
further notice should suffice in giving us some breathing space to work on a
new immigration policy. Suspending the current law would give each country the
option/right to sending back home any undesirable/illegal immigrants.

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Message 1397505 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 11:25:35 UTC

Nice one Russia

Would love to see Brussels dictate to them!
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Message 1397531 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 13:08:04 UTC
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If it was a simple as that it would have been done. You can't just suspend laws either in a country or a group of countries just because they become inconvenient.

No, you can't argue against that, providing all do agree, "That at the end of the
day it's only an issue of inconvenience".
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Message 1397730 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 21:19:44 UTC - in response to Message 1397717.  

The USA apparently has a major problem with illegals and drug running from Mexico.

It has a major problem with drug running from Mexico, and points south.

It has a major problem with illegals from countries south of Mexico. Mexico is also having this problem!

Strange as it may seem the Mexicans are more peeved at it. It seems those illegals from Guatemala and El Salvador are taking jobs from legal Mexicans.

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Message 1397742 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 22:11:14 UTC - in response to Message 1397733.  

It seems those illegals from Guatemala and El Salvador are taking jobs from legal Mexicans.

That little group of countries Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, are not really one thing or another are they. Not North or South America, and usually thought of as "banana republics" by the Western world. Okay so Mexico has it's own illegals problem for one reason or another. But why do so many of them want to enter the States illegally? A knock on effect?

May be residual of Reagen era amnesty. Back then the USA still had manufacturing jobs. Today they are in China. Takes a while for the news to spread.


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Message 1397748 - Posted: 1 Aug 2013, 22:34:33 UTC - in response to Message 1397742.  

I suspect that some choose to enter the US as in effect economic refugees. That is less so for Mexico today though. Their economy has actually had several years of pretty solid recovery AND as a function of an increasing middle class, Mexico has a much lower birth rate than it did even a decade ago.

These days, being honest (I realize that is something foreign to many), the issue isn't so much illegal immigration from Mexico as it is dealing with the existing immigrant population in a way that doesn't damage the US.

The only reason for the proposed massive infusion of 'border security money' is to provide cover for some Republicans and to line their election coffers with funding from defense companies who seek a new business opportunity.
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Message 1397948 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013, 15:40:34 UTC

I the UK problem is very similar to the US problem.

It's like standing in line at a theater. a nice man of another ethnicity and his family is ahead of you in line. He clearly belongs there. He's waited his time just like you. The next thing you know another person of the same ethnicity walks up and startt talking to that nice person in line. this happens again and again and suddenly you are sure that most of these people don't belong in that line but you'd be hard pressed on who to complain to and who exactly to point out to get them out of line.

When confronted with their line jumping you get a solid front of denial including the guy and his family that were there legitimately. Then you get a few people that demand you leave those people alone and the whole thing turns into a cluster. In the end you don't get to enjoy the theater. you get harrassed for pointing out the obvious problem and people that don't belong there are heros for making a stand.

I see this as a multifacetted problem. The first is national origin vs country of citizenship. I am of Polish ancestry but you certainly don't see me waving a Polish flag around. Currently, you see many national flags other than the one that the person lives in being flown as a matter of national pride. It makes the argument for expulsion a little easier when you wave another countries flag in a country of residence and demand to be heard by its government.


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Message 1398075 - Posted: 2 Aug 2013, 20:06:21 UTC - in response to Message 1398067.  

The solution our current regime is seeking is to make this country poorer than the countries that are entering this country illegally.

and we are discussing the UK immigration problem


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Message 1398597 - Posted: 4 Aug 2013, 8:46:18 UTC

Totally agree, it's not their fault......

Don't blame the immigrants
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Message 1399487 - Posted: 6 Aug 2013, 12:00:29 UTC - in response to Message 1399476.  

Ah yes, the Mails Hitchens ....

Hitchens has said of his reputation: "I know a lot of people consider me to be disreputable or foaming at the mouth, but you have to learn not to care, or at least not to mind. I don't like being called 'bonkers' and I think to some extent it demeans people who use phrases like that. But I take comfort from the fact that most totalitarian regimes tend to classify their opponents as mentally disordered."

Typical Mail trouble maker.



Yet you still use it to make your point
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Message 1411354 - Posted: 4 Sep 2013, 13:11:50 UTC
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Government given up catching illegals

Too busy taking too many holidays!

Ooops, did this get in their way of doing their jobs?

MP's porn habits at Westminister

Wow, have some Waily Fail reporters infiltrated the BBC?
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