& because you depend on the geek's friend, the Wiki, you denigrate others.

Nice man!

Yes facts can be inconvenient.
I personally side with the Spanish on this issue.
The English have a colorful history of drug running.
"Opium Wars" anyone?

Yep, very Inconvenient

Drug Use

"Since 1937, 20% to 37% of the youth in the United States have used cannabis. One in four high school seniors has used the drug in the past month; one in ten 8th-graders has done so. The History of the Non-Medical Use of Drugs in the United States. In the 1960s, the number of Americans who had tried cannabis at least once increased over twentyfold."

A Little outdated but still highly relevant

You couldn't do me a favour & provide stats for you Canucks or are you all clean upstanding virgins?

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A Little outdated but still highly relevant

You couldn't do me a favour & provide stats for you Canucks or are you all clean upstanding virgins?

Are you suggesting that increased demand justifies drug smuggling by criminal gangs? What left field did that come from?

I personally believe that all drugs should be decriminalized, taxed, and revenue be used to treat addiction. So when the taxes get too high, more crime, oops looks like you didn't think that one through

As long as there is profit to be made in smuggling drugs some of the best smugglers in history will make out like bandits. History has already proven that smuggling regardless of what is being smuggled will never be wiped out

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A Little outdated but still highly relevant

The higher a person's income, the more likely he or she is to use each of the four substances surveyed.

Are you sure this isn't a poverty survey?

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A Little outdated but still highly relevant

You couldn't do me a favour & provide stats for you Canucks or are you all clean upstanding virgins?

Are you suggesting that increased demand justifies drug smuggling by criminal gangs?

Change justify to explain, and realize capitalism exists. Where there is demand someone will step in and fill that demand.

I personally believe that all drugs should be decriminalized, taxed, and revenue be used to treat addiction.

Absolutely. Waste far to much cash and surrender far to many civil rights to attempt to fight it. (Very much the same as the lost rights in fighting terrorism.) Just give them a recreational drug users ID card and DNR order and note that in their license files.

As long as there is profit to be made in smuggling drugs some of the best smugglers in history will make out like bandits.

Law of supply and demand.

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Yes a hundred years of criminalizing drug use has worked so well. On the rise and criminals making out like bandits. Do you call that success?

I'd hate to think what the state of affairs would be like today if drugs had
not been criminalised. With alcohol, not everyone can become an alcoholic but
with drugs everyone can become addicted.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
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Well you are obviously stating an opinion that you believe to be fact hence no proof necessary.

Sorry but I assumed you already knew this fact.

Most people who try drugs, don't become addicted.

Correct because they only try them, but if they use them long enough then they
will become addicted.

The few that do become addicted are marginalized with little help in fighting their addiction.

All depends on which country they live in.

Maybe you just hate to think?

Actually I quite enjoy it, do try it sometime.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

you can get treatment for alcoholism from health care providers. Funny how that works eh?

It's funny if they have to pay for their health care. It's not funny if I have to pay for it.

No you don't. It isn't like you are forced to buy insurance. You are free to not have it and pay the tax.

Oh, you mean the court ordered cleanup stuff. Well, just make it legal and that all goes away.

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We have a saying that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I seem to remember a few years ago someone in BC trying to build a tunnel to Washington State. And over on the other side of Canada isn't there a First Nation settlement that straddles the border from Ontario to NY that causes lots of smuggling problems on both sides of the border.

Gary, this does not apply to Guy,

No you don't. It isn't like you are forced to buy insurance. You are free to not have it and pay the tax.

By being retired military we pay for his medical insurance. I am not complaining, just pointing out the benefit he has earned and how it is paid for.

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Beginning 1 Oct this year, this is no longer a true statement for my situation.

Thank you for telling me one thing 35 years ago, and then changing the rules on me this year.

It's a bitch what the teapublicans will do to save a dime isn't it?

Oh, you did know it was the tea that has mandated this end of coverage in the name of no new taxes and sequestration didn't you?

Poor baby, now you are one of the "THEMS" that the tea rail against.

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@Chris: Sorry if we hijacked your thread. If you want I'll start another and we can ask the mods to move the drug smuggling / addict / insurance posts over there. Your call. [And I know you won't see this for a few hours as you are asleep.]

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Nobody wants play with you?

Nick you have a rather cavalier attitude to facts.

"It is generally believed that over 30% of those individuals who use nicotine for a period of time become addicted.

The figures quoted are very dubious when compared to others available quoting
e.g. nicotine addiction. I suppose it's all down to who's carrying out the study for
with reference to nicotine some quote the addiction level to be as high as
86.8%.

"So nobody wants to play with me". I did not realise that we were actually
playing a game here?...by the way, what's the rules of play?

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

Liberals are successfully killing the military. The American people thank you for this. Because of this, the government will have more presents to hand out to welfare recipients for the next few years.

First off this is nonsense. Second what has this got to do with Spain.
Third. As i recall W sent troops into Iraq and Afghanistan. All these troops were armed and updated equipment-wise during Clintons admin. It seems like the Military is and was a very potent fighting force even with inept leaders that insist on starting their own wars. Don Quixote comes to mind

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Lonely Guy?
Nobody wants play with you?

were questions aimed at Guy who usually plays in his own sandbox.

....lucky blighter.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

not really his folks didn't have the heart to tell him it was the cat box

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

not really his folks didn't have the heart to tell him it was the cat box

Skild'...your awful...tee-he.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.