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Message 1389639 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 0:37:05 UTC

One a lack of ancestral fossils and the other a perplexing engineering challenge. Two hours long.
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Message 1389664 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 5:36:21 UTC

Actually only two MINUTES and five SECONDS long!
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Message 1389674 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 6:11:16 UTC
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Analysis of the Discovery Institute's Bibliography

A report from National Center for Science Education (NCSE)


As it was originally furnished to the Board, the Bibliography was prefaced with the following explanation:

The publications represent dissenting viewpoints that challenge one or another aspect of neo-Darwinism (the prevailing theory of evolution taught in biology textbooks), discuss problems that evolutionary theory faces, or suggest important new lines of evidence that biology must consider when explaining origins.

Because the representatives of the Discovery Institute who appeared at the March 11 meeting — Jonathan Wells and Stephen C. Meyer — were widely touted as promoters of "intelligent design," it would have been reasonable for the Board to assume that among the "dissenting viewpoints" included in the Bibliography was "intelligent design." But it isn't.

NCSE sent a questionnaire to the authors of every publication listed in the Bibliography, asking them whether they considered their work to provide scientific evidence for "intelligent design."[5] None of the 26 respondents (representing 34 of the 44 publications in the Bibliography) did; many were indignant at the suggestion.


I therefore submit that every entry promoting the pseudo-science of the Discovery institute be removed from this Science board.

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Message 1389727 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 10:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 1389674.
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We probably should allow crackpot theories and then point out where they are dead wrong using logic and scientific results.

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Message 1389750 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 13:31:07 UTC

We probably should allow crackpot theories and then point out where they are dead wrong using logic and scientific results.


Happens every day over in Politics LOL

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Message 1389763 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 14:12:37 UTC

WoW, you bitterly complained Rob over the last one being to long. Did you by chance have the time for this one?
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Message 1389764 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 14:13:24 UTC - in response to Message 1389727.

We probably should allow crackpot theories and then point out where they are dead wrong using logic and scientific results.


Example being global warming?

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Message 1389765 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 14:13:46 UTC - in response to Message 1389750.

We probably should allow crackpot theories and then point out where they are dead wrong using logic and scientific results.


Happens every day over in Politics LOL

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Message 1389813 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 16:44:10 UTC

550 Million Years Ago = Lots 'O Mysteries. Duh.

In The Last 10 Years of My Reading 'bout 10,000 +++ pages of Evolutionary Theory, The Brain Boys are doing a Pretty Good Job of 'splaining Thangs.

In The Last 10 Years, GOD Done No 'splainin' To Me. I've Asked, but All Quiet On Da Supernatural Front.

And IDers, well, Nice Try Boyz, but No Go.

Evolution Da Winner.

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Message 1389888 - Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 23:23:46 UTC - in response to Message 1389813.

550 Million Years Ago = Lots 'O Mysteries. Duh.

In The Last 10 Years of My Reading 'bout 10,000 +++ pages of Evolutionary Theory, The Brain Boys are doing a Pretty Good Job of 'splaining Thangs.

In The Last 10 Years, GOD Done No 'splainin' To Me. I've Asked, but All Quiet On Da Supernatural Front.

And IDers, well, Nice Try Boyz, but No Go.

Evolution Da Winner.

Bound For IT IT.


Dull, I believe in Evolutionary hypothesis. I just reject the chance part. And I do so for good reason---engineering. A single cell cannot be called a simple cell.

Bound For IT--hell you are. ;-)
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Message 1390162 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 16:12:29 UTC

No mystery that I can see. Take a back garden (not an American lot, or a yard, a proper garden) and leave it a bit. Soon the weeds will start to grow. Leave it long enough and the weeds will flourish like triffids. That is what all species will do, breed in favourable conditions.

There was never any divine design by a single entity. Now if you are talking intelligent intervention at some point, that might be slightly different .....

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Message 1390225 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 19:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 1390162.

No mystery that I can see. Take a back garden (not an American lot, or a yard, a proper garden) and leave it a bit. Soon the weeds will start to grow. Leave it long enough and the weeds will flourish like triffids. That is what all species will do, breed in favourable conditions.

There was never any divine design by a single entity. Now if you are talking intelligent intervention at some point, that might be slightly different .....



At the start, and from time to time it would appear....

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Message 1390233 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 20:11:32 UTC

please explain the evidence of an initial intervention and those so-called subsequent interventions. What physical evidence are you using to derive your hypothesis
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Message 1390251 - Posted: 12 Jul 2013, 21:21:09 UTC - in response to Message 1390233.

please explain the evidence of an initial intervention and those so-called subsequent interventions. What physical evidence are you using to derive your hypothesis


I thought that would be obvious, the topic of this thread.

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Message 1390760 - Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 1:05:33 UTC
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so ignore facts and speculate on invisible powers
Stephen Meyer in a nutshell
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Message 1390761 - Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 1:13:52 UTC - in response to Message 1390251.

please explain the evidence of an initial intervention and those so-called subsequent interventions. What physical evidence are you using to derive your hypothesis


I thought that would be obvious, the topic of this thread.

ID, spell it out, some of can not read your mind.
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Message 1390763 - Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 1:28:11 UTC

Nothing was ignored.
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Message 1390768 - Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 1:56:54 UTC - in response to Message 1390761.

please explain the evidence of an initial intervention and those so-called subsequent interventions. What physical evidence are you using to derive your hypothesis


I thought that would be obvious, the topic of this thread.

ID, spell it out, some of can not read your mind.


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Message 1391012 - Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 18:43:01 UTC - in response to Message 1390768.

you give invisible answers much like his theoretical Itelligent designer
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Message 1391072 - Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 21:15:45 UTC - in response to Message 1391012.

you give invisible answers much like his theoretical Itelligent designer


“What do you think science is? There's nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. Which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?”

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