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Message 1386160 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 17:20:27 UTC

I had a motherboard go out and had to do an emergency rebuild of my computer recently.

Ever since I fired it up, I've been having trouble with my SETI projects getting tied up in BOINC.

As of right now, I've got ~100 WU's that are ready to report, but I keep getting a "Communications Deferred" as I wait for them to go. If I attempt to update the project it will freak BOINC out, where I'll need to physically uninstall and reinstall, which seems to get me going for a while - then it starts again. Any ideas?
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Message 1386162 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 17:24:46 UTC - in response to Message 1386160.

Which one is it?

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Message 1386167 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 17:30:50 UTC

Yeah, that would be helpful to know, huh?? - 6786867 is the troublemaker..
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Message 1386168 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 17:38:34 UTC

Hmmm...

What did you do? Buy a new motherboard and transplant the hardware components over to it?

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Message 1386175 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 18:02:02 UTC - in response to Message 1386160.

If I attempt to update the project it will freak BOINC out

In what way does it freak out?

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Message 1386177 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 18:16:14 UTC

Alinator - yeah, pretty much. This computer is a pretty important one when it isn't crunching, so I needed to get it back up and running ASAP.

Grant - if I update the project, it will kinda "freeze" the boinc manager. The only options are to force-close BOINC or reboot the machine, and after either of those I am unable to connect to the BOINC client. The only solution at that point is to uninstall and reinstall the program.
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Message 1386180 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 18:32:41 UTC

Sounds strange indeed.
You could try turning HT off in the bios and see if that makes it more responsive.
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Message 1386218 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 21:08:16 UTC - in response to Message 1386177.

Alinator - yeah, pretty much. This computer is a pretty important one when it isn't crunching, so I needed to get it back up and running ASAP.

Grant - if I update the project, it will kinda "freeze" the boinc manager. The only options are to force-close BOINC or reboot the machine, and after either of those I am unable to connect to the BOINC client. The only solution at that point is to uninstall and reinstall the program.


Almost sounds like the BOINC data folder might be corrupted.
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Message 1386255 - Posted: 1 Jul 2013, 0:11:21 UTC

Turning off HT didn't make any difference.. Anything to be done if the data folder is corrupt? Am I best to set to not get any more tasks, run out until I get all my work in, then start a new profile and merge the two?
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Message 1386260 - Posted: 1 Jul 2013, 0:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 1386255.

Turning off HT didn't make any difference.. Anything to be done if the data folder is corrupt? Am I best to set to not get any more tasks, run out until I get all my work in, then start a new profile and merge the two?


Basically you would uninstall boinc, move the data folder to desktop and then reinstall boinc. This will give you a clean data folder, but most likely also a new computer ID.
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Message 1386339 - Posted: 1 Jul 2013, 6:57:29 UTC - in response to Message 1386260.
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Very odd.
Do you run a 3rd party firewall or one of the many all in one security suites?
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Message 1386566 - Posted: 1 Jul 2013, 19:31:30 UTC

Grant, I run Avast, as do almost all of the other systems in my little farm.. and none of them are having trouble..
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Message 1388572 - Posted: 7 Jul 2013, 17:05:38 UTC

Well, it happened again - I removed the project and have started fresh, so we'll see what happens now..
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Message 1388574 - Posted: 7 Jul 2013, 17:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 1386260.

Basically you would uninstall boinc, move the data folder to desktop and then reinstall boinc. This will give you a clean data folder, but most likely also a new computer ID.

I wouldn't know why it would give a new hostID, unless you managed to destroy the client_state.xml file AND client_state_prev.xml file in the process. But other than that, you can easily move the data directory to anywhere and back and as long as it happens on the same hardware (same CPU, same GPU) and software (same operating system platform), you shouldn't have any trouble.

I've just moved my data directory from P: back to C: and I didn't get a new hostID. So why should he?
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Message 1388667 - Posted: 7 Jul 2013, 21:49:26 UTC - in response to Message 1388574.

Basically you would uninstall boinc, move the data folder to desktop and then reinstall boinc. This will give you a clean data folder, but most likely also a new computer ID.

I wouldn't know why it would give a new hostID, unless you managed to destroy the client_state.xml file AND client_state_prev.xml file in the process. But other than that, you can easily move the data directory to anywhere and back and as long as it happens on the same hardware (same CPU, same GPU) and software (same operating system platform), you shouldn't have any trouble.

I've just moved my data directory from P: back to C: and I didn't get a new hostID. So why should he?

In a clean (newly created) data folder, there wouldn't be any client state file. ;-)

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Message 1388668 - Posted: 7 Jul 2013, 21:55:34 UTC - in response to Message 1388667.

In a clean (newly created) data folder, there wouldn't be any client state file.

Ah yes, I read it wrong. I assumed it meant moving the data directory to elsewhere and then just reinstalling BOINC pointing it to the new spot of the DD.
But if you want a clean data directory, you can just as well delete the old one, or leave it into place and tell the BOINC installer to make a new one at any path different from the original one.
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Message 1388738 - Posted: 8 Jul 2013, 5:35:50 UTC - in response to Message 1388572.

Well, it happened again - I removed the project and have started fresh, so we'll see what happens now..

Is the motherboard that you replaced the old 1 with the same make and model as the old 1?

And if not did you reinstall Windows?

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Message 1388812 - Posted: 8 Jul 2013, 11:50:14 UTC - in response to Message 1388738.

I had been wondering about that too.

I've done the transplant as is to a different MB technique before, and had it work initially. However, I always ended up reinstalling the OS clean eventually due to subtle oddities in system behavior. ;-)

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