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Message 1405575 - Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 15:13:53 UTC - in response to Message 1405529.

Orwell's 1984 is here already?

Been here since the day Usenet died.

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Message 1411837 - Posted: 5 Sep 2013, 15:26:51 UTC

Snowden talks operational details, people die ... as the jihadists have their way ...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/5/terrorists-tout-new-technology-thwarts-us-intellig/

Terrorists tout new encryption technology that thwarts U.S. intelligence

didn't take long once they had the operational details of how the system works ...

Terrorists and jihadists say they have a new tool to undercut American and Western intelligence — a mobile encryption software system that operates cell phone-to-cell phone, and works on even those devices that aren’t equipped with the technology.


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Message 1411840 - Posted: 5 Sep 2013, 15:33:09 UTC

But some doubt the software will really prove as effective as claimed — and won’t harm the ability of the West to infiltrate terrorist cells and obtain intelligence information at all.

“We don’t really know how effective the encryption is or isn’t, because nobody at an official level has publicly disclosed that,” said Evan Kohlmann, a terrorism analyst with NBC. “However, based on our research, it is likely that U.S. intelligence agencies do have the capability to break that encryption when needed.”

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Message 1411843 - Posted: 5 Sep 2013, 15:39:20 UTC - in response to Message 1411840.

When needed, is before you even know who is talking, not after the bomb explodes and you forensically trace it back to an individual and discover he has one of these phones.

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Message 1411968 - Posted: 5 Sep 2013, 22:59:19 UTC

I'm beginning to think that operation Snowdon is a cooperative venture between China, Russia, and the USA.
It's a sting operation.
Crippled Technology is being leaked and adopted by people who think that they'll be safe now.

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Message 1411973 - Posted: 5 Sep 2013, 23:37:46 UTC - in response to Message 1411968.

... Crippled Technology is being leaked...

Nah...

This is all just a wake-up call for what was already long ago known.

No 'secrets' have been divulged. It is all just a game of publicity for what we all should already know...


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Message 1412095 - Posted: 6 Sep 2013, 7:58:07 UTC

I think coding in secret backdoors is really silly. All you need is one disgruntled programmer and the cover is blown. It's like s big boys version of the old Easter Eggs in Windows apps.

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Message 1412114 - Posted: 6 Sep 2013, 11:14:19 UTC - in response to Message 1412095.

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Message 1412120 - Posted: 6 Sep 2013, 11:31:44 UTC
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Try this one. There was a last digit missing, sorry.

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Message 1412121 - Posted: 6 Sep 2013, 11:50:31 UTC
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Message 1431099 - Posted: 20 Oct 2013, 15:06:56 UTC
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I still consider Snowden to be a patriot of the highest order.

He has revealed that there is too much stealth and secrecy in our government that is NOT directed in the name of national security, but directed at the American people instead.

The government needs to be taken down.
Dismantled, and reinstated from scratch to again become what our forefathers envisioned and directed.

It would take about 2 percent of what is currently known as our government to keep this country running. 2 percent, tops.

The rest is all just a money laundering scheme to extort taxes from the masses and do with it what they will. That's all our government has become. They are extortionists. Criminals.

WE DON'T NEED our money to be extracted from the local level, skimmed by Washington and dribbled back to us as they see fit.

Wisconsin is a prosperous state. Our governor Walker has just passed a property tax DECREASE.........
Yes, a decrease in taxes. We did not need Washington. We just needed to cut things that did not need to be funded and give the rest back to the people who earned it.

Nuke the white house, and things would get a lot better for most of this nation.

Spill it all, Snowden.
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Message 1431119 - Posted: 20 Oct 2013, 16:07:51 UTC

I do wish people would decide what they want.

Do you want the government to detect those that are in your country but wish you harm or do you want another 9/11?

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Message 1431129 - Posted: 20 Oct 2013, 16:35:45 UTC

WK is right, Mark is wrong.

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Message 1431215 - Posted: 20 Oct 2013, 20:42:38 UTC - in response to Message 1431119.

I do wish people would decide what they want.

Do you want the government to detect those that are in your country but wish you harm or do you want another 9/11?


Actually, that's the tricky tight rope most Americans want the Government to follow..most Americans acknowledge the need for intelligence gathering for national security purposes, as long as it isn't over bearing and infringing on our civil liberties.

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Message 1431226 - Posted: 20 Oct 2013, 21:03:34 UTC - in response to Message 1431215.

I do wish people would decide what they want.

Do you want the government to detect those that are in your country but wish you harm or do you want another 9/11?


Actually, that's the tricky tight rope most Americans want the Government to follow..most Americans acknowledge the need for intelligence gathering for national security purposes, as long as it isn't over bearing and infringing on our civil liberties.

The problem is it isn't only being used to go after terrorists.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/new-amicus-brief-urges-court-order-criminal-discovery-surveillance-programs
If it were and there was a time limit on keeping the data ... perhaps, but the government will never be kept in check if it operates from a position of FUD.


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Message 1431257 - Posted: 20 Oct 2013, 22:51:46 UTC

To be honest I have been following the Snowden case as it applies this side of the pond. This article in the Gaurdian, GCHQ Tempora sign-off should be investigated, says Chris Huhne.

It shows what what data is kept and for how long, which appears to be different to what happens over there.

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Message 1432720 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 18:48:47 UTC - in response to Message 1431257.

The National Security Agency monitored the phone conversations of 35 world leaders after being given the numbers by an official in another US government department, according to a classified document provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/nsa-surveillance-world-leaders-calls

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Message 1432924 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 23:57:15 UTC - in response to Message 1432720.

every phone call??


Snowden: NSA keeps record of every telephone call in the United States

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Message 1432965 - Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 0:54:55 UTC - in response to Message 1432924.

every phone call??


Snowden: NSA keeps record of every telephone call in the United States

Might be overstated, because the Podunk Hollow phone company hasn't modernized to to the point that they can send records to the NSA, something about a manual switchboard ...

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Message 1433108 - Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 8:59:53 UTC

Still, it's a quick way to make enemies of your friends.

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