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Message 1384724 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 5:34:00 UTC

I was donated a never used EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 with 2GB DDR3 PCI-E card that is spec'ed to have CUDA, but GPU-Z says it doesn't. In order to ask EVGA tech support, I must register the card first, but that requires a receipt and store name, neither of which I got with the card.

The BIOS is 75.19.55.00.10 (P1310-0004). Computing is OpenCL and PhysX but no CUDA or DirectCompute. The driver is the latest WHQL (320.18) on this computer (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7022545).

Does anyone have a helpful suggestion as to how to get CUDA on this card? Or is there another way to use it with BOINC? Or should I just use it as a paper weight now?

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Message 1384776 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 9:09:12 UTC - in response to Message 1384724.
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Where did you get the driver?
You need driver from NVIDIA or EVGA, not from Microsoft/Windows
(Microsoft deliberately removes certain parts from video drivers)


Also it seems there is a new problem with NVIDIA driver 320.18: Scheduler Wait
(you may need older driver)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72056
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72079

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72077
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72083


But there is new post by Claggy:
"The latest 320.49 drivers fix the 320.00/.14/.18 device memory allocation issue on mixed Nvidia/ATI hosts:"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=72056&postid=1384670#1384670


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Message 1384815 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 12:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 1384724.

I was donated a never used EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 with 2GB DDR3 PCI-E card that is spec'ed to have CUDA, but GPU-Z says it doesn't. In order to ask EVGA tech support, I must register the card first, but that requires a receipt and store name, neither of which I got with the card.

The BIOS is 75.19.55.00.10 (P1310-0004). Computing is OpenCL and PhysX but no CUDA or DirectCompute. The driver is the latest WHQL (320.18) on this computer (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7022545).

Does anyone have a helpful suggestion as to how to get CUDA on this card? Or is there another way to use it with BOINC? Or should I just use it as a paper weight now?

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Also can you post the first 20 lines after BOINC starts up.
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Message 1384969 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 23:45:33 UTC - in response to Message 1384815.

Sorry, I should have thought of that but didn't.

6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | No config file found - using defaults
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.64 for windows_x86_64
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Running as a daemon
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Data directory: D:\ProgramData\BOINC
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Running under account boinc_master
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes syscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Memory: 7.85 GB physical, 15.70 GB virtual
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Disk: 996.09 GB total, 150.81 GB free
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Local time is UTC +7 hours
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | No usable GPUs found
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | rosetta@home | URL http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 1528787; resource share 100
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 7476670; resource share 100
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | LHC@home 1.0 | URL http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/; Computer ID 9962262; resource share 100
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 7022545; resource share 200
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 03-Jan-2012 12:41:43)
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Reading preferences override file
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Preferences:
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | max memory usage when active: 6029.39MB
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 7637.23MB
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | max disk usage: 100.00GB
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Not using a proxy

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Message 1384971 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 23:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 1384776.

The EVGA website link took me to the NVIDIA website to get the driver, which is from where I downloaded it.

IF I can get CUDA in this card, or IF I can get an OpenGL client for it, I will need a proper driver - thanks for the tip.
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Message 1384984 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 1:23:26 UTC - in response to Message 1384969.

6/25/2013 12:40:24 PM | | Running as a daemon


BOINC can't use CUDA/OpenCL if you've installed it as a service (daemon) under Windows Vista or higher. You'll have to uninstall BOINC and re-install it without selecting Protected Application Execution.

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Message 1385020 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 4:14:50 UTC - in response to Message 1384984.

Thanks for the heads-up. I understand this restriction, but I am not going to un/reinstall unless I can use the card. First I want to know it can be used, then if I can, I will do the necessary reconfigurations to use it.
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Message 1385030 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 5:29:46 UTC - in response to Message 1385020.
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Thanks for the heads-up. I understand this restriction, but I am not going to un/reinstall unless I can use the card. First I want to know it can be used, then if I can, I will do the necessary reconfigurations to use it.


There is no obvious reason, as long as you have the proper Nvidia driver installed, that the card shouldn't work. It's not a terribly powerful card, but it should run one WU at a time faster than a comparable CPU unit. Of course, unless you un/reinstall BOINC after insuring a proper driver is in place, it's a sure thing that, under your present configuration, it WON'T work.
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Message 1385078 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 11:30:07 UTC - in response to Message 1385020.

Thanks for the heads-up. I understand this restriction, but I am not going to un/reinstall unless I can use the card. First I want to know it can be used, then if I can, I will do the necessary reconfigurations to use it.


Why wouldn't the card be usable?

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Message 1385096 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 13:27:31 UTC - in response to Message 1385030.

I was working under a misconception. This is the first graphic card I have ever had since I am not a gamer or graphics user. GPU-Z reported that the card did not have CUDA, and I thought SETI clients were only available for CUDA. My error. I un/reinstalled the manager and - voila! - it found the card, reported it has CUDA and OpenCL and promptly put it to work.

Thanks for your encouragement in getting me to try it.
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Message 1385097 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 13:28:27 UTC - in response to Message 1385078.

As it turns out, it was not usable because I didn't actually try it in a correct configuration since I was working under a misconception. See my reply above.


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Message 1385109 - Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 14:52:13 UTC - in response to Message 1385096.

This is the first graphic card I have ever had since I am not a gamer or graphics user.

Then how did you see anything on your monitor? Braille?

It's easy to get confused today in the computer market, but here goes:
Another word for graphics card is video card. Neither means it can only do graphics or video.

Most Operating Systems these days use graphics, Windows is one big graphical user interface enabling you to give commands to your computer. Everything you see on the screen in Windows are graphics. Not just the background, but also all the icons, the launch bar, the menus, everything.

The videocard/graphics card translates what the OS sends to it into visuals you see on the monitor or TV screen. Meaning you don't have to be a gamer or graphics user to use a graphics card. All computers need a graphics card. Without one, your monitor will be black.

The difference here is that since a couple of years calculations can be done on the graphics card, be it CUDA, CAL or OpenCL. This is done with a so called GPGPU, or General Purpose, Graphical Processing Unit. A GPU that can do intricate calculations at the same time as showing the graphics on a monitor.
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Message 1385796 - Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 13:40:52 UTC - in response to Message 1385109.

Simple: I just told the BIOS to use the integrated GPU on my i7 as my primary, and ignore the graphic/video add-in card. If (or perhaps I should say when) the BOINC clients begin using the integrated GPUs, then the projects will see a big increase in throughput. I know there is some work on getting this to happen. I have always purchased mainboards WITH graphics on board, so a separate graphics card was not needed (I build my own computers, too, except for my laptops).

The first computer on which I worked was an IBM 650 which used vacuum tubes for logic, a drum for storage, and punched cards for input and output. I have been in this game a long time, but never had an interest in "graphics" per se. I remember when Windows first came out with their GUI on a monochrome monitor (ugly as sin, too). I still wouldn't have an add-in card except one was given to me and I decided to try to get it to work.
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Message 1385818 - Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 15:43:16 UTC - in response to Message 1385096.

I was working under a misconception. This is the first graphic card I have ever had since I am not a gamer or graphics user. GPU-Z reported that the card did not have CUDA, and I thought SETI clients were only available for CUDA. My error. I un/reinstalled the manager and - voila! - it found the card, reported it has CUDA and OpenCL and promptly put it to work.

GPU-Z shouldn't be trusted with regards to whether Cuda or OpenCL is available, better to use GPUCapsViewer, that will give the Cuda and OpenCL capabilities of a GPU rather than a simple tickbox:

GPU Caps Viewer 1.18.1 Released

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Message 1386035 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 6:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 1385818.

Thanks for the pointer. I downloaded and ran it (portable - nice!), and it does give lots more information not only about the graphic card, but also about the integrated graphics in my CPUs.
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Message 1391224 - Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 7:41:45 UTC

This seems to be the proper place to ask this,if not, please let me know where to go. I replaced my ATI card after the fan failed with a GeForce GTX 560 (the driver is 320.49). I expected the video card to be used to crunch data, but I still only have the for CPU processors doing the crunching even though I told Boinc to use the GPU. Shouldn't the crunching be done by both the CPUs and the GPU? If so, what am I doing wrong that causes the video card not to be used?
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Message 1391277 - Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 12:56:14 UTC - in response to Message 1391224.

(...) Shouldn't the crunching be done by both the CPUs and the GPU? If so, what am I doing wrong that causes the video card not to be used?
You use anonymous platform for crunching, have you (re)installed the lunatics apps for the new GPU? Also: Have you selected GPU processing in your seti@home/BOINC preferences?
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Message 1391434 - Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 23:03:25 UTC - in response to Message 1391224.

And addendum to Ulrich's question, did you also uninstall the ATI drivers completely?
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Message 1391452 - Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 0:13:41 UTC - in response to Message 1391277.

I reinstalled the lunatics app for the cpu when I updated to the 7.0.64 BOINC app. Is there a separate app for the gpu? Yes, I have the preferences set to always use the GPU but it has never done anyting with the GPU.
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Message 1391453 - Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 0:14:22 UTC - in response to Message 1391434.

I uninstalled the ATI drivers before I changed out the video card. Thanks.
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