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Message 1387014 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 4:31:48 UTC - in response to Message 1387009.

Yes, I'll take Brazil.

I must admit that I saw the game yesterday.
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Game, what game?

That's what I was wondering.

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Message 1387021 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 4:39:21 UTC - in response to Message 1387014.

Yes, I'll take Brazil.

I must admit that I saw the game yesterday.
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Game, what game?

That's what I was wondering.

Ping!


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Message 1387023 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 4:45:34 UTC - in response to Message 1387007.
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First thing, I went to the hardware store for a fuse, but the smallest they had was 20 amps, so I didn't buy it. But I checked the info sticker on the AC unit and it says maximum fuse 20 amps, so I guess I'll go back and buy it... tomorrow, probably.

Er, riiiight, Okaaay ... the saga continues then :-)))

I think it said normal operating current is 13.7, so with startup surges 15 is probably too small. It blows one about once a year.

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You probably want a time delay or slow blow type. The starting surges on compressors can be rather high. The 15a fuse would be so close to the normal running current that it would explain it blowing once in a while without a real problem with the compressor.

You also may want to check the gauge of the wiring...
The norm would be at least 14ga for a 15 amp circuit and 12ga for a 20 amp circuit.

I'd also replace the fuse on the other leg of the circuit. Otherwise it would be the next to pop.

These have been time delay types, and it's been the same one blowing each time. The one that's good is much older than the one that's blown. I'm guessing the fan is 110 and runs on that leg.

Checking the wire gauge might not be a bad idea. My father installed that circuit himself, back when we had the first air conditioner installed ca. 1980. It's not a very long run, maybe four or five feet, and local code insists that it be in conduit.

If I could afford it, I'd replace the whole fusebox with a modern breaker panel and a transfer switch for a generator, but the electrician would probably say I have to rewire the whole house with all grounded outlets and fixtures. Some of the outlets that have grounds, I can't swear are legitimate grounds because I've never looked at them myself. I'd like to do the rewire too, but I can't afford it, and some of the outlets aren't even accessible behind furniture.

Possible that the fan could run on only one leg of the circuit. And a time delay type will eventually give out if it's pushed to the limit just too many times.
If you find out the wiring is 12ga, you are good to go with no problems upgrading to 20a on either the problem side or both sides of the circuit. If you find out it's 14ga, it should not take too much to replace a 5 foot run by pulling new THHN conductors through that short conduit.
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Message 1387027 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 4:52:07 UTC

Good morning win before win in my team ;)
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Message 1387046 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 5:51:51 UTC

Good to hear the doctor's visit went well, Ian :)

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Message 1387089 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 7:49:16 UTC

Good morning win.

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Message 1387132 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 10:01:17 UTC - in response to Message 1387023.
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... but the electrician would probably say I have to rewire the whole house ...

Maybe not. I can't remember the US NEC (it's been 25 years since I last did wiring there, but at that time you could leave knob and tube in place if it was of sufficient gauge and passed the insulation tests). Current UK code (17th ed) has some grandfather clauses for existing wiring - partly since we changed a lot of rules for EU compatibility.

...some of the outlets aren't even accessible behind furniture...

Maybe put new ones more conveniently and disconnect the others without physical removal? And do the whole thing piecewise to spread the cost and aggravation? I upgraded my 1965 installation over about 15 years, recently culminating in a new board fitted by a licensed tech who was amazed at the good insulation test value (28 megohms) for such "old" wiring. That 1965 stuff was done on the same principle over the original 1938 (VIR in EMT) some of which is still physically there but all now disconnected.
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Message 1387134 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 10:13:36 UTC

Lunchtime win
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Message 1387137 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 10:16:13 UTC - in response to Message 1387134.

Bon app├ętit Julie :)
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Message 1387138 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 10:16:47 UTC

Merci Tom :)
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Message 1387149 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 12:37:19 UTC

Off to work. Last day before a 5 day holiday for me.

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Message 1387158 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 13:08:33 UTC

Morrn' all....
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Message 1387170 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 13:52:17 UTC

Winning on a warm summer mornign.
81F at 0645, going to 110 again today. Soon off to Wednesday Coffee Klatch, then releive the guard at the Fireworks Booth.
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Message 1387175 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 14:23:19 UTC

Luther is back!
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Message 1387177 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 14:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 1387132.
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Me I'll eventually have 2 nearly useless 20A outlets moved from where they are now to under the window here behind My desk, that and put in 2 240v outlets, one for a wall mounted air conditioner and the other for a pc psu. And yeah I'd have a licensed electrical contractor do the work. Plus I need to replace 3 windows starting in 2016 and maybe have a couple of exterior doors looked at, the doors will have a $100 trip charge added of course, just for the locksmith to drive from Barstow CA to here, all of 12 miles.
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Message 1387184 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 14:58:52 UTC

Found a meme on Facebook:

tomorrow

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The best time to do everything you had planned for today.

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I shared it to my timeline with the personal comment: Today is the tomorrow that yesterday became when I didn't do anything Monday.

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I have to do it today, though, because I don't have enough cat food to last until Friday. Or eggs. And it's going to get hot tomorrow, so I need that fuse for the AC.

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Message 1387186 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 15:00:52 UTC
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Winning after a very calm day at the office. I got off early today:))
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Message 1387198 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 15:27:34 UTC

Winning because it's summer ..............
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Message 1387199 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 15:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 1387198.

This is a good reason to win, John :p
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Message 1387205 - Posted: 3 Jul 2013, 15:48:56 UTC

Posting after doing the dishes, then cooking some eggs and sausage for breakfast, the coolers on and I have enough eggs to last Me until sometime in August.
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