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Message 1379341 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 13:52:43 UTC - in response to Message 1379281.  

Ah, looks like a Canadian ACLU is getting started. Bully for them. Get it sorted and do it right.

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Message 1379350 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 14:23:54 UTC - in response to Message 1379345.  
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The Empire is Dead. Long Live the Empire!
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Message 1379375 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 15:09:10 UTC - in response to Message 1379350.  



The Empire is Dead. Long Live the Empire!

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Message 1379384 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 15:19:11 UTC - in response to Message 1379354.  

Come the revolution you'll be the first to get kicked out, your name is well up near the top of most lists :-))



I'll welcome it. Does that mean we can kick you lot out of Ulster?
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Message 1379422 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 16:23:22 UTC
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The old Empire has been dead now for some 65 years was it worth having? Nope,
it was just a load of hassle...thank goodness it has gone. Shame Brussels
hasn't realised this fact for unless it gives up it's shackles around Europe's
neck then there's a load of hassle in store for them.
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Message 1379518 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 18:57:10 UTC

$50,147,000 was spent during the 2006-07 year.

I didn't do an extensive search, but that $50 million has most certainly increased since 2007.
If Canadians are paying tens of millions toward supporting the monarchy, I think those same citizens have the right to voice an opinion.

Personally, I would rather keep the cash in Canada and agree that the Windsors can do whatever they want in their own country.
As it stands, Canadian citizens still have the right to intervene and they are exercising that right.
Franco or Anglo in heritage means nothing in this discussion because the monarchy accepts the cheques from us without questioning ancestries.
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Message 1379567 - Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 20:23:47 UTC - in response to Message 1379518.  

$50,147,000 was spent during the 2006-07 year.

I didn't do an extensive search, but that $50 million has most certainly increased since 2007.
If Canadians are paying tens of millions toward supporting the monarchy, I think those same citizens have the right to voice an opinion.

Personally, I would rather keep the cash in Canada and agree that the Windsors can do whatever they want in their own country.
As it stands, Canadian citizens still have the right to intervene and they are exercising that right.
Franco or Anglo in heritage means nothing in this discussion because the monarchy accepts the cheques from us without questioning ancestries.

I believe the only costs borne by the citizens commonwealth countries is the costs of the Governor General.

And in the UK the income from the Crown Estates, which is paid to the Government and not the Royal Family, exceeds the costs of supporting the monarchy. The Queen gets 15% of the Royal estates income.
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Message 1379642 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 1:01:30 UTC

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/07/14/queen-costs-us-more-than-the-brits-pay/

From the article...
According to the latest figures out of Buckingham Palace, while Canadians are shelling out $1.53 per capita, the British are only paying about $1.32. And the Monarchist League’s own numbers show the Canadian cost is skyrocketing. Over just the last 10 years, the per capita bill for supporting the monarchist framework— including expenses incurred by the royal clan on Canadian soil, as well as the cost of running the offices of the Governor General and our 10 provincial lieutenant-governors—has more than doubled.
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Message 1379647 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 1:25:25 UTC - in response to Message 1379642.  

As an outsider I would think the Queen is worth at least 1 1/2 Loonies.
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Message 1379671 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 3:35:54 UTC - in response to Message 1379642.  

How much would it cost to have a president and don't forget to add in the costs for ex-presidents.
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Message 1379790 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 9:17:03 UTC

The other thing to consider is how much is spent when other Heads of State visit.
That would not be a small sum, and if it was considered as the price paid for all important visitors then it should not be included in the costs of Royal Family visits.
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Message 1379838 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 11:34:46 UTC - in response to Message 1379811.  

The costs of a State visit are borne by the treasury of the host country, i.e. the Government pays for it.


I wonder, in comparison, what it cost's a country to run a president as against
a monarch. President's don't draw in tourism like monarchs do, especially where
the UK is concerned. Having a British monarchy is a milk-cow for foreign
revenue here, the British monarchy more than earn their keep.


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Message 1379843 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 11:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 1379811.  

The costs of a State visit are borne by the treasury of the host country, i.e. the Government pays for it.


If you read the article they were lumping these costs in the the Canadian total costs for the Royal Family.
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Message 1379861 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 12:44:42 UTC

I wonder, in comparison, what it cost's a country to run a president as against a monarch. President's don't draw in tourism like monarchs do, especially where the UK is concerned. Having a British monarchy is a milk-cow for foreign revenue here, the British monarchy more than earn their keep.


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They always have done Nick. Only those that don't want a Monarchy in principle have a moan about the cost. Presidents also don't usually have family money to offset costs either. Buckingham palace, like Windsor Castle, is owned by the British state. It is not the monarch's personal property, unlike Sandringham House and Balmoral Castle which are. I assume that the White House is also owned by the USA State. The UK will never ever become a republic or Presidency because we would be culturally and financially poorer for it.


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Thank God we got rid of T B-liar in time with his Republican ideals!

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Message 1379869 - Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 13:06:50 UTC - in response to Message 1379861.  

I wonder, in comparison, what it cost's a country to run a president as against a monarch. President's don't draw in tourism like monarchs do, especially where the UK is concerned. Having a British monarchy is a milk-cow for foreign revenue here, the British monarchy more than earn their keep.


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They always have done Nick. Only those that don't want a Monarchy in principle have a moan about the cost. Presidents also don't usually have family money to offset costs either. Buckingham palace, like Windsor Castle, is owned by the British state. It is not the monarch's personal property, unlike Sandringham House and Balmoral Castle which are. I assume that the White House is also owned by the USA State. The UK will never ever become a republic or Presidency because we would be culturally and financially poorer for it.


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Thank God we got rid of T B-liar in time with his Republican ideals!

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Message 1380399 - Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 18:19:39 UTC
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Looks like someone has been studying how to win friends and influence people ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22878887
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Message 1381275 - Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 21:49:33 UTC
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So it's not about French dislike of the monarchy, rather it's a test of the Canadian Constitution and the power of the provinces.

"The irony is palpable: Sovereigntists are basing a challenge to the federal government, and an attempt to shore up Quebec’s veto, on the argument that the monarch is the “Queen of Quebec.”"

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/you-say-succession-i-say-secession/article12523154/
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Message 1381294 - Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 22:32:32 UTC - in response to Message 1381275.  

Antonia ne se soucie pas quel sera le prochain roi d'Angleterre est nommé, encore nomme ses propres enfants après rois de France?

Il me semble qu'elle devrait se rendre compte que le Québec fait partie du Canada n'est pas la France et si elle veut mettre la France d'abord, puis elle devrait émigrer là-bas!
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