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Message 1375997 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1375993.  

There is a readme for the AKv8c apps in the docs folder.

AFAIK the only command line argument has to do with verbosity. No parameters are available that would speed up crunching.
The apps do some testing themselves and choose optimum settings for each cruncher, between a lot of different options.
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Message 1376000 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:51:49 UTC - in response to Message 1375982.  

I'm puzzled by the problem I'm having. I get a bad app_info.xml file - just one line:

<app_info>

This was with BOINC completely shut down. Have repeated several times, with the same results. Can't read the installer's messages to see if has an error message- they fly by too fast for me.

And not even on win8 :(

Ok, check your project directory if the .aistubs for the apps you selected have been copied in. Then doubleclick on aimerge.cmd to manually run and see if that produces a valid app_info.xml.

If that doesn't help, but you do have the aistubs, you have to manually merge them into one large app_info.xml - copy all together and take out all the </app_info><app_info> inbetween the apps.
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Message 1376001 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 1375960.  

The applications in the 32 and 64 bit installer are absolutely identical - we do not have 64 bit applications at this time.
The 64 bit installer is required on 64 bit BOINC installs, to correctly pick up work in progress - you have been warned.

Thanks for that info, than I need to download just one, since I plan to unpack the files and update manually.

Another question: are the MBv7 CPU apps just the exe or do they need any dlls like the AP exe?
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Message 1376004 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:54:29 UTC - in response to Message 1375993.  
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Ive not used the installer, but Ive seen a great work in the naming and versioning of the apps, which made the manual installation much easier than ever. Congrats and thanks for all the hard work!!

Low priority question: Is there any readme about the command line options for the AKb8c (CPU) apps? If not, is there any parameter to do a fine tunning or are they only needed when something goes wrong?

I take it you extracted the apps from the installer with 7z.
The CPU readme is named Readme_AKv8c.txt and can be found in $_OUTDIR\docs\ .
Same goes for all other readmes.

NB that is if you don't actually use the installer. if you use it readmes for the selected apps end up in the doc folder in the project folder.
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Message 1376005 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:55:15 UTC - in response to Message 1375993.  

Ive not used the installer, but Ive seen a great work in the naming and versioning of the apps, which made the manual installation much easier than ever. Congrats and thanks for all the hard work!!

Low priority question: Is there any readme about the command line options for the AKb8c (CPU) apps? If not, is there any parameter to do a fine tunning or are they only needed when something goes wrong?

Yes, there is a new Readme_AKv8c.txt file, which will be installed in the docs folder with all installations.

Other specialist ReadMe files for the GPU apps will be selectively installed, alongside the applications they document.
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Message 1376006 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:56:43 UTC - in response to Message 1376001.  

The applications in the 32 and 64 bit installer are absolutely identical - we do not have 64 bit applications at this time.
The 64 bit installer is required on 64 bit BOINC installs, to correctly pick up work in progress - you have been warned.

Thanks for that info, than I need to download just one, since I plan to unpack the files and update manually.

Another question: are the MBv7 CPU apps just the exe or do they need any dlls like the AP exe?

You need libfftw3f-3.dll
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Message 1376008 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 16:58:35 UTC - in response to Message 1376006.  

The applications in the 32 and 64 bit installer are absolutely identical - we do not have 64 bit applications at this time.
The 64 bit installer is required on 64 bit BOINC installs, to correctly pick up work in progress - you have been warned.

Thanks for that info, than I need to download just one, since I plan to unpack the files and update manually.

Another question: are the MBv7 CPU apps just the exe or do they need any dlls like the AP exe?

You need libfftw3f-3.dll

OK, thanks.
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Message 1376011 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 1375989.  



There's no SSE3 in the installer it's SSSE3 (triple X!) and AFAIK AMD doesn't have that. We plan to make additional versions available at some point (after we sorted out that stupid upload problem so we can actually host ourselves...).
AVX should be best, if you can run AVX, yes. YMMV - if in doubt run one app and note runtimes at different AR and then run the other app and compare runtimes at similar AR.



Currently there is no SSE3 app.

Due to time constraints, the team decided to focus on SSE2, SSSE3 and AVX development.
The gain from going from SSE2 to SSE3 has been very small on many never architectures, so it was decided to skip SSE3 for know and perhaps include it in a later installer.

So your installer is working as it should.

The AVX ought to be the fastest on hardware that supports it.



Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I didn't count the S's, they all ran together.
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Message 1376012 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:02:33 UTC - in response to Message 1375993.  

Thank you to the team!
Upgrade was flawless!

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Message 1376017 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:09:30 UTC

Ok , I got 6 wu's with LONNNNG estimated run times , That was expected , I checked the event log and found these errors showing up , I Guess the files will be downloaded as needed ?

6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl not found

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Message 1376018 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:09:34 UTC - in response to Message 1376004.  

I take it you extracted the apps from the installer with 7z.
The CPU readme is named Readme_AKv8c.txt and can be found in $_OUTDIR\docs\ .
Same goes for all other readmes.

That is! Not used it because Ive already had all the optimized versions for everything but the MB v7 apps... I was sure that the readmes should be somewhere but I tend to ignore folders with "$" and other non alphabetic characters on the (wrong) assumption that they are just temp folders... :D

Thanks, again!

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Message 1376020 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:13:00 UTC

Seems to work fine. Thanks :)
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Message 1376021 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:14:04 UTC

BTW if you get an 'internal server error' from CA just try again - I guess the site isn't cut out for the load we're putting on it.
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Message 1376024 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:18:06 UTC - in response to Message 1376017.  

Ok , I got 6 wu's with LONNNNG estimated run times , That was expected , I checked the event log and found these errors showing up , I Guess the files will be downloaded as needed ?

6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl not found

Not sure what happened there. Please:

Shut down BOINC
Re-run the installer - make sure you've chosen the right one (32-bit or 64-bit) to match the version of BOINC you're running.
Re-start BOINC
Post the first 30-40 lines from your event log.
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Message 1376025 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 1376017.  

Ok , I got 6 wu's with LONNNNG estimated run times , That was expected , I checked the event log and found these errors showing up , I Guess the files will be downloaded as needed ?

6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl not found


I got the same errors on one host, but the next messages said it was restarting the tasks. They started from where they left off. Everything seems to be running fine. No mention of downloading files other than workunits.
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Message 1376037 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:30:48 UTC - in response to Message 1376025.  

Ok , I got 6 wu's with LONNNNG estimated run times , That was expected , I checked the event log and found these errors showing up , I Guess the files will be downloaded as needed ?

6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl not found


I got the same errors on one host, but the next messages said it was restarting the tasks. They started from where they left off. Everything seems to be running fine. No mention of downloading files other than workunits.

I guess that is expected, the old apps are not anymore there after running the installer so BOINC fixes the client_state and reports the files that were not found...
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Message 1376038 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:31:09 UTC - in response to Message 1376024.  
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Ok , I got 6 wu's with LONNNNG estimated run times , That was expected , I checked the event log and found these errors showing up , I Guess the files will be downloaded as needed ?

6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl not found

Not sure what happened there. Please:

Shut down BOINC
Re-run the installer - make sure you've chosen the right one (32-bit or 64-bit) to match the version of BOINC you're running.
Re-start BOINC
Post the first 30-40 lines from your event log.


I got exactly the same thing. And also, next lines of log showed everything restarting normally, and all is fine since. Could it have to do with leaving the app_config file in?
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Message 1376041 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:35:14 UTC - in response to Message 1376021.  

BTW if you get an 'internal server error' from CA just try again - I guess the site isn't cut out for the load we're putting on it.

I just updated my top two rigs.
One XP pro, one XP pro x64...no problems.
Only side note is by default they selected a notch below the best GPU app for the cards installed. But the one I wanted was not greyed out, so I was able to install the desired version.

I'll save the installers to a USB stick and update the other 7 rigs with that to save a bit on the download server.

Nicely done to all!!!

Many meows to ya.
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Message 1376042 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:36:30 UTC - in response to Message 1376041.  

BTW if you get an 'internal server error' from CA just try again - I guess the site isn't cut out for the load we're putting on it.

I just updated my top two rigs.
One XP pro, one XP pro x64...no problems.
Only side note is by default they selected a notch below the best GPU app for the cards installed. But the one I wanted was not greyed out, so I was able to install the desired version.

I'll save the installers to a USB stick and update the other 7 rigs with that to save a bit on the download server.

Nicely done to all!!!

Many meows to ya.

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Message 1376045 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 17:43:10 UTC - in response to Message 1376025.  

Ok , I got 6 wu's with LONNNNG estimated run times , That was expected , I checked the event log and found these errors showing up , I Guess the files will be downloaded as needed ?

6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setigraphics_7.00_windows_intelx86.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/libfftw3f-3-3_upx.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_50_35.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda32.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cudart32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/cufft32_32_16.dll not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/astropulse_6.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe not found
6/3/2013 11:52:22 AM | | File projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/AstroPulse_Kernels_r1316.cl not found


I got the same errors on one host, but the next messages said it was restarting the tasks. They started from where they left off. Everything seems to be running fine. No mention of downloading files other than workunits.


Let me guess the host you got it on is the one running boinc 7.0.64?
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