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Message 1376617 - Posted: 4 Jun 2013, 18:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 1376509.

May I suggest Microsoft Security Essentials. I have been using it for about a year and it works great. One thing I like about it is that it upgrades definitions 2 or 3 times a day. It's also free.

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Message 1376743 - Posted: 4 Jun 2013, 22:24:20 UTC

Good Morning all From Christchurch, New Zealand.
Thank yhou for the suggestions for replacement Antivirus/ Fire wall Programs.

This Morning AVGs Identy Module Welcomed me Just after I Logged into windows.
If My experience is typical of the "AVG FAKE BUG", Each Application <and version of application> will require its own exception.

Here is a copy of a couple of the excetions that I have made to allow SRTI@HOME to continue to crunch the numbers.

"General behavioral detection, C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda50.exe";"Added to exceptions";"5/06/2013, 9:40:12 a.m.";"File or Directory";""

"General behavioral detection, C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\setiathome_7.00_windows_intelx86__cuda42.exe";"Added to exceptions";"4/06/2013, 3:56:12 p.m.";"File or Directory";""


At This point I am semi Tempted to turn off the Identy protection Module.
I am also reminded of a classic cartoon that Did the rounds in 1988-1990 <The days of ms-dos 3.3 & windows version 1> which featured a p[icture of Daffy Duck Holding a sledge Hammer aBove his computer while its screen displayed the message "Error - Hit Any Key To Continue"
Substitue the pc for avg 2013 paid edition & I too would be reaching for my sledge Hammer! If Laughter is the best medicine, I Hope that Helps!

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Message 1376755 - Posted: 4 Jun 2013, 22:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 1376617.

May I suggest Microsoft Security Essentials. I have been using it for about a year and it works great. One thing I like about it is that it upgrades definitions 2 or 3 times a day. It's also free.

Whilst it is free it regularly comes last in virus detection tests and is not recommended.

Avast, Panda Cloud, Zone Alarm, Avira, Bitdefender, and AVG free editions all score higher than MSE.
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Message 1376760 - Posted: 4 Jun 2013, 22:59:51 UTC - in response to Message 1376755.
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Now, how many viruses have you had on any of your systems lately? Chances are high that none of the above will catch them, or that you have a root kit which the free virus scanners can't completely get.

I just dropped Avira from my 2 systems as it was starting to irritate me that each time I let any of the systems resume from hibernation, first thing it was going to do was update Avira, thereby slowing the whole start-up enormously. Even while I set one of the systems to only update every 5 days and 18 hours, the other system I couldn't get off of a 6 hour update. Trying any other value than 6 hours, would constantly reset to 6 hours. That plus the over-annoying pop-ups, usually in a language not my own, nor English (I've seen French, Portuguese, Spanish, and what looked like Danish). Gone. Off.

I'll run Microsoft Security Essentials, plus Superantispyware, plus Malwarebytes Anti-malware.

If I still have trouble between those, then it just had to be. Karma. :)

PS: It did find the 300 (!!) virus infections that were present in the source code files of the Drugdiscovery project homepage web site. After cleaning everything, I ran an online scanner of Trend Micro over the same directory structure and it didn't find any further threats. Not that I allow the rest of the source code back online.... ;-)
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Message 1376767 - Posted: 4 Jun 2013, 23:37:21 UTC

In my limited experience MSE seems to bog down a computer less than others that I have used. As for the "tests" that show poor efficacy, I would wonder what if any commercial motives the testers have.
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Message 1376858 - Posted: 5 Jun 2013, 5:18:50 UTC - in response to Message 1376332.

Avast, try it...

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Message 1378087 - Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 15:28:43 UTC - in response to Message 1376755.

May I suggest Microsoft Security Essentials. I have been using it for about a year and it works great. One thing I like about it is that it upgrades definitions 2 or 3 times a day. It's also free.

Whilst it is free it regularly comes last in virus detection tests and is not recommended.

Avast, Panda Cloud, Zone Alarm, Avira, Bitdefender, and AVG free editions all score higher than MSE.


Who did the scoring. What criteria was used in the process. Yes, color me a skeptic. Just the facts, Sir.

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Message 1378183 - Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 17:55:38 UTC - in response to Message 1378087.
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Who did the scoring. What criteria was used in the process. Yes, color me a skeptic. Just the facts, Sir.

There are several reputable sources/organizations that test Anti-Virus Software:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

http://www.av-test.org/en/home/

http://www.virusbtn.com/


'Real-World Protection Tests':
http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php?chart=chart2&year=2013&month=4&sort=0

And strangely Microsoft have no False Alarms:
http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php?chart=chart6&year=2013&month=3&sort=0


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Message 1378572 - Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 13:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 1373678.

Would need therefore that people asking us to work for them inform the producers of antivirus... Have us one gives information to, it is definitely, but not much have make nothing.

AlmereGrid is however part knack our new antiviruses do not like.

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Message 1378691 - Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 21:07:57 UTC
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I was having no trouble with this at all until today. A few days all it took to deal with the problem was to "allow exception", reboot and back to normal. Now it is regularly being picked up by AVG and the above procedure no longer works. This time the problem was with two Astropulse units:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1260284332
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http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1259227541
I get a message to say that BOINC cannot communicate with the client.
The only way to get back to normal is to reinstall BOINC.

Anyone got any suggestions?
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Message 1378705 - Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 21:50:10 UTC - in response to Message 1378691.

In that case it must be preventing the BOINC core client from running. There have been reports of AVG recognizing boinc.exe (7.0.64) as a virus as well, but that should have happened when boinc was first run.
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Message 1378722 - Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 22:52:28 UTC

Completed one AP unit a short time ago. Now waiting for the next to finish....
Bated breath and crossed fingers.
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Message 1379154 - Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 22:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 1374417.

Sorry to say but I am encountering the problem on Windows 7 (32-bit) with a Free version of AVG.

I have followed your instructions
"Add your BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu directory to the list of exceptions. That directory will probably either be C:\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu or C:\Users\YourUsername\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu"

We'll see if I get further "Detections" in the coming 24hrs
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Message 1380093 - Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 1:19:05 UTC - in response to Message 1379154.

Sorry to say but I am encountering the problem on Windows 7 (32-bit) with a Free version of AVG.

I have followed your instructions
"Add your BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu directory to the list of exceptions. That directory will probably either be C:\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu or C:\Users\YourUsername\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu"

We'll see if I get further "Detections" in the coming 24hrs


AVG Detection popped up again this morning so this fix hasn't worked.
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Message 1380208 - Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 9:21:56 UTC - in response to Message 1378691.

hi. I use the paid avg, but this should work for you. Step 1, add an exeception to the bonic data directory from all scans. Step 2 you will need to add an exeception in the identy protection module for each seti application & version there of, ie setiathome v 7.0, astropulse version 6.0, astropulse verrsion 6.01, setiathome cuda <varous versions> etc. Each version of each program will need its own exeception. look further down the thread for my exeperiences on this topic.
After I reinstalled Bonic & added the execeptions, everything returned to normal.
Good luck.
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Message 1380234 - Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 11:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 1380093.

Sorry to say but I am encountering the problem on Windows 7 (32-bit) with a Free version of AVG.

I have followed your instructions
"Add your BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu directory to the list of exceptions. That directory will probably either be C:\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu or C:\Users\YourUsername\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu"

We'll see if I get further "Detections" in the coming 24hrs


AVG Detection popped up again this morning so this fix hasn't worked.

Can you post (copy/paste) the exact directory/files in the list of exceptions (excluded from scan)?

Because if you did this with posted:
C:\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu
C:\Users\YourUsername\Program Data\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

... nothing useful will happen.

(\Program Data\ have to be \ProgramData\ , 'YourUsername' have to be replaced, etc.
So your BOINC Data dir is for certain different
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Message 1381150 - Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 17:11:03 UTC

Dear Eric,

I wrote to you some days ago about getting an AVG Heuristic virus report on 7.00. I followed your instruction and set AVG to ignore the folder containing the Seti@Home file.

Now I get nothing but computational errors on all the 7.00 tasks running on my system.

I told Boinc to update Seti@Home yesterday. It downloaded many new tasks. Today all those tasks had terminated with "computation error." Could AVG and this problem be related?

Thanks.

Sincerely,

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Message 1381180 - Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 18:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 1381150.

Hi Ramon,

Haven't had a chance to deal with my PMs recently. I'll look into it.

Thanks,

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Message 1381595 - Posted: 15 Jun 2013, 20:38:49 UTC - in response to Message 1373641.

DR.KORPELA,MY COMPUTER IS STILL HAVING TROUBLE RUNNING SETI@HOME PROGRAMS.LOUIS M.EASTON.

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Message 1381597 - Posted: 15 Jun 2013, 20:40:43 UTC - in response to Message 1381595.


If you have a problem then ask for help in the help forums.
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