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Message 1374959 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:28:49 UTC

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Message 1374960 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:28:51 UTC - in response to Message 1374953.  
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COPY THAT. Again I said thanks to the code wranglers.. now I'm even more dazed and confused than previously. Yall donno Seth? WTF? over...

http://www.seti.org/users/seth-shostak Seth Shostak
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Yep, he's with the SETI Institute - totally different organization, but regularly confused with the Seti@Home project.

So, JR, did you ever get Seti@Home running on your computer, and is it successfully crunching V7 yet?
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Message 1374962 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 1374937.  

Hey Charlie! Nice 'seeing' you again. Been a while.
v7 managed to get you into the light again? :)
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Message 1374963 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:36:43 UTC - in response to Message 1374917.  

Still no explanation on what v7 does. Yesterday has come and gone...


As mentioned in this very thread, there have been other more urgent issues that have required people's attention.



Sorry, didn't see it through all the spam in this thread.
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Message 1374970 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:40:42 UTC
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People, calm down.

Please read this message carefully.

The most SAH members are 'stock' BOINC/SAH users.
The BOINC D/L all what is needed from the SAH server automatically.
Just check the 'SETI@home v7' ckeckbox in the project settings.

I can't remember if the checkbox was automatically unchecked or checked as the checkbox was added to the project settings. Other topic. ;-)

If the member decide to use an app_info.xml file in the project folder, he, the member need to care about the installed apps.
He get this information before he install and use an app_info.xml file.


So the member need to look from time to time to the number crunching forum about newest news/apps. Here is the thread in NC about new 3rd party apps.
And what is to do if something like now is happen.

So app_info.xml file user don't need to insult the SAH admins if the PC don't get newest apps.

The SAH admins and the Lunatics crew work very close together.

But, the admins can do nothing if the members decide to use 3rd party (Lunatics) apps.
The SAH server can send new apps only if there is no app_info.xml file in the project folder.

Of course, the Lunatics apps are very welcome at SAH, but the member alone need to do then everything manually.
Install new apps, delete the app_info.xml file for to let run short time stock apps - like to the next Monday, and so on.

BTW. Because of the few hours no SAH today: Seti is down again.

In SAH Enhanced was searched:
Spike count: 2
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 5
Gaussian count: 0

Now in SAHv7 one added search:
Spike count: 2
Autocorr count: 0
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 5
Gaussian count: 0

Let the admins time for to explain what this new search mean.
Just one before, this will increase the chance to find extraterrestrial life.


Please, for to let clear this thread, please post messages only if the new SAHv7 apps are not running fine on your system. This will help the admins to find such messages easy and they can act.
If you have problems to get SAHv7 apps/WUs, come on over to the NC forum and write in the already available threads or open a new thread about your problem.
Thanks.

Thank you for your attention.


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Message 1374972 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 1374962.  

Hey Charlie! Nice 'seeing' you again. Been a while.
v7 managed to get you into the light again? :)


At the risk of being off-topic, I've been around, but very busy with life. Very excited to see v7 released, and excited for the guys in the lab with the colo move and all the various other things they've accomplished.
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Message 1374973 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:44:35 UTC - in response to Message 1374968.  

Donald - yes BOINC running SETI@home only still worked (apparently) on V7. But at the sacrifice of the command buttons defunct is not worth the hassle. I was running in a Windows XP pro SP3 limited user account and not only did it eff-up all 3 of the top browsers in there.. even in Adminstrator account after rebbot, the browsers were somehow blocked from any website like the default - berkely. edu or whatever - DUDE I JUST LOST EVERYTHING AND FORMATTED MY PC!!!
I'm just so over this crap. Heads are gonna roll - I can see others are peed besides me.


It sounds like you got a virus. With the number of users running the Lunatics optimized applications, I'd imagine if it were they who were responsible for this, others would be having the same issue.

I have used the optimized applications for many years myself, and I can attest to their code work being very clean.

So before you go around throwing accusations at people on this forum, I suggest you make sure you have all the evidence you need to back yourself up. Assumptions and anecdotes do not make proof-positive data!
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Message 1374981 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:58:07 UTC - in response to Message 1374968.  
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berkely. edu or whatever

Not whatever. www.berkely.edu and setiathome.berkely.edu do not exist. You're missing an 'e' in the address and the 'l' is in another place. www.berkeley.edu and setiathome.berkeley.edu will get you places.

Has in that case nothing to do with a virus, or with you being blocked. Just a wrong address.
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Message 1374982 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:59:47 UTC - in response to Message 1374979.  

Donald - yes BOINC running SETI@home only still worked (apparently) on V7. But at the sacrifice of the command buttons defunct is not worth the hassle. I was running in a Windows XP pro SP3 limited user account and not only did it eff-up all 3 of the top browsers in there.. even in Adminstrator account after rebbot, the browsers were somehow blocked from any website like the default - berkely. edu or whatever - DUDE I JUST LOST EVERYTHING AND FORMATTED MY PC!!!
I'm just so over this crap. Heads are gonna roll - I can see others are peed besides me.


It sounds like you got a virus. With the number of users running the Lunatics optimized applications, I'd imagine if it were they who were responsible for this, others would be having the same issue.

I have used the optimized applications for many years myself, and I can attest to their code work being very clean.

So before you go around throwing accusations at people on this forum, I suggest you make sure you have all the evidence you need to back yourself up. Assumptions and anecdotes do not make proof-positive data!


SETI with all the pages were down during many hours last night (late your time) No connection to the database, or anything. It was a Berkely wide network problem. http://ucbsystems.org/

And the result was that he formatted his computer drive?

No further comments necessary.


But he said:

the browsers were somehow blocked from any website


So I took that to mean he got a rootkit virus. But if indeed he reformatted his computer because the servers were down last night (I know, I couldn't access them either), then that is a very paranoid thought that could have been avoided with just a little extra trouble-shooting.
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Message 1374985 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:07:40 UTC

Maybe postid=1374920 could be interesting for the admins.

(...)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6910524&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
(...)

I looked to a few results with very low and with normal AP Credits/WU.

If your 'AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_ati_100)' results will compared with stock OpenCL app results: low Cr.
If your 'AstroPulse v6 v6.04 (opencl_ati_100)' results will compared with 'anonymous platform' results: normal Cr.

Hmm...

Maybe the admins need to look.



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Message 1374987 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:15:08 UTC - in response to Message 1374982.  
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NO! Another case of me being at the wrong website at the wrong time? I'm so able to be wrong - and apologize. The website just happened to go down? I thought I had a worm. Needless to say that is unacceptable after all the "testers" etc. You all just lost me and anyone I will ever meet. Well, maybe I will cut you some slack in Heaven and offer you a hug. Nytol.
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Message 1374991 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:18:55 UTC - in response to Message 1374987.  
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NO! Another case of me being at the wrong website at the wrong time? I'm so able to be wrong - and apologize. The website just happened to go down? I thought I had a worm. Needless to say that is unacceptable after all the "testers" etc. You all just lost me and anyone I will ever meet. Well, maybe I will cut you some slack in Heaven and offer you a hug. Nytol.


Why when I read that all I can imagine is it being said by Loud Howard from Dilbert?
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Message 1375000 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:28:28 UTC

Gatekeeper i am really sorry i am just not understandin it all ,


Make a new text file named app_config.xml and have this in the contents

<app_config>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.04</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

add that after i run outa work, maybe a sticky with all the steps for someone like that isnt catching, again i am sorry
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Message 1375006 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:38:02 UTC - in response to Message 1374994.  
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Not whatever. www.berkely.edu and setiathome.berkely.edu do not exist. You're missing an 'e' in the address and the 'l' is in another place. www.berkeley.edu and setiathome.berkeley.edu will get you places.

I understand what you are saying, but you have to appreciate that many people here don't have English as their first language. And a lot of those that do aren't that good at it either. This is an International project!

Going to the right address has in this case nothing to do with the language people speak, type, read or breathe. So, when this person is constantly speaking of how berkely.edu was not available to him, then that's correct. It's not available to me either, or to you, as it doesn't exist. Has nothing to do with their (in)ability to use a different language, which in the case of JR Love is English (since he's American).

So, wrong tree you're barking at.
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Message 1375012 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:46:10 UTC - in response to Message 1374937.  

For the rest of the SETI users still using stock applications, they haven't noticed a thing as evidenced by not a single one complaining in here. Only those using the Anonymous platform are having issues, compounded by those that still can't tell the difference between BOINC and SETI@home.


Well let me be the "first stock user" to offer a complaint. Thursday I got a set of various v7 Cuda wu which all errored out because the v7 dll (or whatever)were stalled in downloading. When I updated, I got all the remaining V7 files and the errored wu's were sent back. I got another set of cuda wu's, but these had "computing errors" because of "too many errors." The only v7 wu I have at present is a cuda42 being processed by my GPU.

Now my BOINC manager is requesting work about every 20-25 minutes, and getting the responses:
06/01/2013 3:33:04 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
06/01/2013 3:33:04 PM | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks
06/01/2013 3:33:06 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed
06/01/2013 3:38:11 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
06/01/2013 3:38:11 PM | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks
06/01/2013 3:38:13 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed

ETC.

I'm now running my backup project (Rosetta) for my CPU until I can start getting SETI wu's again. From one of Eric's comments, I gather that when wu's error out, the scheduler won't sent that type of work again for a period of time?
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Message 1375013 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:46:37 UTC - in response to Message 1374987.  
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I'm sure by now most of you realise that it's pointless trying to help this person (JR Love) as they need professional help that we are unable to provide?
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Message 1375016 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 22:50:35 UTC - in response to Message 1375012.  

Thursday I got a set of various v7 Cuda wu which all errored out because the v7 dll (or whatever)were stalled in downloading.

You are the first person to have this issue. I and others that have posted in the appropriate forums all had WUs download & ready to crunch, and they sat there & waitined untill the other files had finished downloading, which in my case took most of the night. Then they started processing.
But the fact is they didn't error out while waiting for the application files to downlond.
The ones that errored out on my other system did so becasue of my fiddling with the system.
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Message 1375032 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 23:16:17 UTC - in response to Message 1375016.  

Thursday I got a set of various v7 Cuda wu which all errored out because the v7 dll (or whatever)were stalled in downloading.

You are the first person to have this issue. I and others that have posted in the appropriate forums all had WUs download & ready to crunch, and they sat there & waitined untill the other files had finished downloading, which in my case took most of the night. Then they started processing.
But the fact is they didn't error out while waiting for the application files to downlond.
The ones that errored out on my other system did so becasue of my fiddling with the system.

I think there have been one or two other reports (buried under all the noise) of tasks being run, and failing, before a necessary program or DLL has completed downloading.

Of course, the most likely explanation would be a user-cancelled transfer or the client calling a permanent transfer failure (which itself warrants investigation), but there have been just enough (I think) plausible reports to take seriously.

This would be a BOINC client bug, of course, not SETI's responsibility, but if anybody can document an occurrence (in Number Crunching, of course), we know how to take it further.
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Message 1375042 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 23:23:47 UTC - in response to Message 1375012.  

06/01/2013 3:33:04 PM | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
06/01/2013 3:33:04 PM | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks
06/01/2013 3:33:06 PM | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed


That's either a bug in BOINC, or some really confusing messages from BOINC about what it's attempting to do.
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Message 1375050 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 23:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 1373503.  

Hi Raistmer,
I'm no expert at software, but I'd like to have a go at helping with testing. Version 7 is working fine on the 4 core MacPro. ie 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual Core Intel Xeon with 16 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 FB-DIMM , with Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB . It can't go past Mac OSX 10.7.5

The dual six core, 12 processor MacPro is "Running" 12 work units [w/u] after installing Version 7 and now giving a "Waiting for shared memory " messages beside all the other ready to start w/u. Previously it was hyper-threading 24 w/u simultaneously. It appeared that hyper-threading was less efficient as the time taken was 5+ hours for SETI@home v6 and 45++ for Astro-Pulse v6. I tried to exclude Astro-Pulse in the preferences but they still come through occasionally. Currently the 12 core is doing average SETI@home v7 w/u in around 3 hours and AstroPulse around 20 hours. The "time remaining" for AstroPulse is dropping from around 35hrs to under 25 hrs as the unit is processed towards completion. Please advise any machine details and other information required to assist.

The 12 core MacPro is dedicated only for SETI and has minimal other software installed beside OSX 10.8.3 (12D78) and Firefox. It has a non-standard processor set, ie. 2 x 3.33 GHz 6-core Intel Xeon when I purchased it. Since SETI didn't use much memory in my experience, I dropped the installed memory to 2 of 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 blocks ie 16 GB total at present. Graphic Card is ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024 MB. When running full-time both machines pushed my RAC temporarily under 400, but my electricity bill jumped alarmingly, so the 12core is on off-peak discount tariff currently and only running about half the time, ie late at night and over the weekends.


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