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Message 1370116 - Posted: 20 May 2013, 20:56:06 UTC

Hearts & prayers go out to all in Moore, Oklahoma as a massive tornado just ripped thru it this afternoon. It stayed on the ground for approx. 1 hr and watched most of it on MSNBC. Two schools completely gone along with several neighborhoods. This thing was over a mile wide. Tornado broke apart and is recycling again N.E. of the city as I key this post.


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Message 1370118 - Posted: 20 May 2013, 21:06:03 UTC

Listening to reports, this community was devastated on May 3, 1999 and today's storm took the exact same path of destruction.


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Message 1370121 - Posted: 20 May 2013, 21:14:50 UTC
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Yeah just saw that on the News, glad I live in the CA high desert, I'll take the high temps and an earthquake any day, tornadoes scare the hell out of Me like nothing else. I hope no one died.

The News just said the tornado was a MILE wide or Maybe 2 miles wide according to a chopper pilot for the TV News in the area... OMG...
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Message 1370124 - Posted: 20 May 2013, 21:24:06 UTC

This same storm has recycled and the tornado has restructured itself and has touched around Meeker, OK.


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Message 1370128 - Posted: 20 May 2013, 21:50:11 UTC - in response to Message 1370126.  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22604251


Chris, The link you provided was of the tornado that touched down in Shawnee yesterday (03/19). This is a very different one.


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Message 1370130 - Posted: 20 May 2013, 22:04:01 UTC - in response to Message 1370128.  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22604251


Chris, The link you provided was of the tornado that touched down in Shawnee yesterday (03/19). This is a very different one.

How's this Link?

Crazy people still deny that climate change is real, they can argue with the dead from Moore and maybe Meeker OK...
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Message 1370171 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 1:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 1370132.  

The Oklahoma State Medical Examiner's Office says death toll is now 51 after a destructive tornado with winds up to 200 mph swept through Moore, Okla., and surrounding areas.

My heart goes out to everyone. Prayers for Moore Okla.
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Message 1370175 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 1:35:16 UTC

very sad to hear this my thoughts go out to all in that area and hope they will be ok and survivers get well soon
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Message 1370179 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 2:25:00 UTC

Thoughts and prayers


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Message 1370197 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 4:52:50 UTC

Care, comfort and concern. Making a donation to the Red Cross to aid victims.
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Message 1370211 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 5:46:21 UTC

The latest news says the death toll is now 91
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Message 1370229 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 6:07:35 UTC

Of those 91(so far), 20 are children, the tornado according to the TV News was 2.5 miles wide and to think a few years ago some wanted to defund NOAA and FEMA... But I digress...
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Message 1370230 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 6:08:47 UTC
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Nature can be a heartless witch.
God's healing Grace to all the survivors
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Message 1370241 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 6:40:30 UTC

Makes me very sad to think about the many lives that have been lost and those that have been changed forever.

Prayers and thoughts of healing to all those affected by the Oklahoma storms.
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Message 1370244 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 6:45:14 UTC - in response to Message 1370241.  

Makes me very sad to think about the many lives that have been lost and those that have been changed forever.

Prayers and thoughts of healing to all those affected by the Oklahoma storms.

That town got hit by a monster, in 1999 Moore had been flattened, now 14 years later... Utter devastation, I can hope for the best, but I fear, the worst is yet to come. :(
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Message 1370279 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 13:22:22 UTC - in response to Message 1370270.  

I think it depends on where one is in proximity to a river and the soil type, The TV news got some official numbers in finally:

 51 dead
101 found alive


The search goes on with rescue teams and their dogs searching...

My ideal house there would be mostly covered with soil covered 1'-2' thick walls made with steel reinforced concrete, plus some sort of roll down steel or titanium shutters for the doors and windows. Odds are it would be on the expensive side possibly.
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Message 1370308 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 15:15:29 UTC - in response to Message 1370270.  

Truly shocking events, but wouldn't it sensible to insist that all new housing in "Tornado Alley" had tornado proof basements? These disasters swill continue to happen for decades.

As Vic notes, it depends on how close they are to a river - loose, sandy river-bottom soil does not well support heavy basements. But even when a large portion of a town is destroyed, rebuilding to new standards doesn't necessarily include upgrading existing homes and commercial buildings.

And this storm was larger, and cut a wider path, than they are used to dealing with...
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Message 1370320 - Posted: 21 May 2013, 19:58:25 UTC - in response to Message 1370270.  

Truly shocking events, but wouldn't it sensible to insist that all new housing in "Tornado Alley" had tornado proof basements? These disasters swill continue to happen for decades.


Tornado bunkers, may well become a statuary requirement in time for these Tornado
prone areas.

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Message 1370434 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 1:37:50 UTC
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A sad update...

24 dead, 9 of which were children, some were double counted in the confusion.

20,000 displaced families.

237 injured.

The tornado was rated an EF-5, which means the tornado had winds between 200 and 210 mph.

The tornado was 1.3 miles across at it's base.

The path was 17 miles long and 45 minutes duration.

Oh and there may be $1 Million in insurance claims by the survivors, at least.

The Huffington Post says Insurance claims could be in the $3 Billion range.

Incredible amount of destruction...
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Message 1370457 - Posted: 22 May 2013, 5:24:29 UTC

Minor correction - EF5 means the tornado had winds in in excess of 200mph. Five is the top of the scale, so no range just a lower limit.
The Oklahoma tornado was measured/calculated as having a wind speed in the range 200-210mph, and so has been graded as EF5.
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