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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I'd post something in here, but I got a PM from a hater of HSR, who is not a Mod, not to post and to withdraw a post, that person is now blocked here, so I do this on FB instead, where I control the content and where I have 194 Friends... The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I'd post something in here, but I got a PM from a hater of HSR, who is not a Mod, not to post and to withdraw a post, that person is now blocked here, so I do this on FB instead, where I control the content and where I have 194 Friends... Well that is unacceptable the only people who can control what you post are Fred and the mod team. Take no notice of what people say, if you post something that is unacceptable the mods will soon let you know. Remember you do NOT have to do what someone else tells you in a PM. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
HSR Hamilton Street Railway? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22160 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The biggest issue for the 59 and the 66 are the two-stroke diesel engines, while they respond very well to power demands they are, by today's standards, thirsty and "dirty". I suspect there is a bit of "EMD pride" at play in the end of the class 66 production. I suggest this because Vosloh Kiepe are delivering the Class 68s to the UK which have a more powerful Cat engine that meets the current emissions regulations, and despite being about 20% more powerful use about the same about of fuel per hour (at full power) as the EMD engines in the 59s and 66s. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
HSR Sorry Celt that should be 'High Speed Rail'. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Ok I'm going to post something Here on HSR. Mexico eyes first HSR route Mexican officials have declared their intent to establish high speed rail spanning 130 miles between the nation's capital, Mexico City, and the city of Queretaro, to the northwest of the capital, in roughly two hours at top speeds of 186 mph. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
Bombardier The good guys! |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Bombardier And all that's left of ALCO, still neat though. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
STB backs CHSRA second segment The Surface Transportation Board has ruled that the California High-Speed Rail Authority "is authorized to construct a 114-mile high-speed passenger rail line between Fresno and Bakersfield, Cal., subject to environmental mitigation conditions," thus giving the state's high speed rail effort more momentum. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
Vic, is this close to your place? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Vic, is this close to your place? The CHSRA article? I live in California and the CHSRA is in California, so yes I am, I once lived in Tulare CA or as My Mom called it 'spider central', though for some reason I almost never saw any. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
Sorry, I meant Bakersfield. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Very interesting Bernie. FYI, EMD London shut down a few years ago. Cat bought the plant, and then moved all the production to their existing US facilities. If you need a bit more room, there is a "for sale" on the plant now. I drove by there this morning, and the sign says there are 590,000 square feet under one roof, available immediately. There was extensive coverage of the 59s in the American railfan press at the time. The EMD techs who were sent to train the British crews on them said the biggest thing they had to convince the drivers of was that they could safely go well into the red zone on the ammeter, for a short time. EMD also built some locos for Ireland. They had to fly the first one over to meet a delivery deadline (IIRC, in a monster Russian military cargo transport recently made surplus by the dissolution of the Soviet Union and downsizing of its military). A lot of them were sold to railroads in South America and Africa, which do not all employ standard gauge. CAT bought and refurbished a factory in Muncie, Indiana just so they could move production there and shut down the one in London, thereby busting the Canadian union (Indiana is a "right to work" state). I rather suspect they could fit something into the UK loading gauge if they really tried, but their bean counters probably don't think it's worth the effort. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
In the Artic our air force used Komatsu equipment when I served...... |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Sorry, I meant Vic lives well away from the direct route between Bakersfield and L.A., if I remember correctly. If a line is ever built to Las Vegas, it might pass near him. The parts of the California High Speed that have been approved so far pretty much parallel the existing Amtrak California route from the bay area and Sacramento to Bakersfield. At the north end, it is supposed to connect to the existing commuter line at San Jose and run into downtown San Francisco. South of Bakersfield (where Amtrak doesn't go), it should run right over (or through) the mountains to L.A., but the route for that is probably still pretty far from being settled on. I suspect Mexico will get its line up and running sooner than California will, although it may suffer from the safety problems of China's lines. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Sorry, I meant So far the CA route will be going from Los Angeles to Palmdale CA, Mexico is having someone else do the work from what I gather, there is a CHSRA link Here on this LA to Palmdale CA segment, the Authority is studying whether to do the entire segment(LA to Palmdale) by TBM or go largely on the surface, at least from what I've read elsewhere online. From Palmdale the route would go thru the Tehachapi Mountains to Bakersfield, somewhat as stated in these two Alternative PDF files Here and Here, then to Fresno, then thru Pacheco Pass to Gilroy, then San Jose, then up the Peninsula along the Caltrain ROW to SF(San Francisco). Anything mentioned in the 2nd PDF file that is not between LA and SF are unfunded and were not included in Prop1a of 2008 and are considered Phase 2 and maybe 3 of HSR in California. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
I'm surprised to see the San Diego leg going so far east before turning south. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I'm surprised to see the San Diego leg going so far east before turning south. CA is a big state, a ways to the south of Anaheim CA is Camp Pendleton a Marine Base, which may partly explain why the route goes around thru San Bernardino/Colton CA before heading south, the other would be revenue related, as such revenue bonds could be sold to build Phases 2 and 3. At least once the main usable segments are built between LA and SF. Also some areas of the coast have landslide problems. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 |
EMD's customer base included South America and North Africa, not sure where these particular engines wound up. I only know this from some consulting work I did for one of their suppliers here in London, documenting equivalency of North American wiring standards with other countries. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
We could have used the HSP from San Diego when I lived there...... |
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