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MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
One of my PCs (5774790 running windows 7) has developed an annoying habit. Everytime I logout, restart or shut down the PC with Boinc running, all current tasks and about 6 new ones crash with computational errors. Of my 4 PCs this is the only one behaving this way. If I suspend BOINC first then no tasks crash, but I do not always remember to do this, not am I always here to do it. Can anyone suggest a solution? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Can't answer for your memory, but how about using remote access if possible that is. |
MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
Can't answer for your memory, but how about using remote access if possible that is. Yes I already use logmein to access it remotely, but I really want to know if there is something I can do to stop it trashing WUs on shutdown as none of my other PCs have this problem, so it seems there is something wrong. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
witch puter the 1 with the gtx 460 ? notice driver Nvdia is 310 I would update to at least 314 from nvida |
MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
witch puter the 1 with the gtx 460 ? No the GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10] (2 processors) which is a CPU only machine. I have had problems before with GPU driver updates, including the most recent microsoft Nvidea update, so I now take the view if it ain't bust don't fix it. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
The one from Microsoft NO never let Microsoft do it it all ways causes trouble the 314 from Nvida is stable I use it on a gigabyte 9600 gpu not probs and my GTX220 and GTX650 personally I supend before I shut down even remote wont help if you don't supend somebody else mite have had your prob |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
First, upgrade BOINC to 7.0.64. As it's not a GPU machine, the caution on emptying cache don't applies. See if that cures it - 7.0.25 is a bad version to be on anyway. boinc should get the shutdown signal, amd gracefully shutdown the apps - the error suggests to me that boinc isn't quite getting there and tasks are being killed by the OS before boinc can get to them. Anything that might slow the system down? You've excluded boinc dirs from AV? A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
See task 2956740262 boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown -> Why would it take longer than 2 seconds for the application to write its final checkpoint/status and quit cleanly? Hard disk in power-down state? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
See task 2956740262 CPU only rig....maybe check task manager CPU usage and see if there is a CPU hogging task running? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Unless he has a prob with bionic maybe you never shut it down properly at some stage ? Try restart in SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING let it start and when it finishes shut it down don't restart shut down ????? start up and then try it |
MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
See task 2956740262 Don't think so, today I was actually using the PC at the time and needed to do a manual shut down / restart to set up some new user parameters. The PC was working normally at the time. |
MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
See task 2956740262 Just checked task manager and no applications running with more than 3% of the CPU, most are 0-1%. Typically the two SETI tasks are each getting 47-50% of the CPU and the next highest CPU usage is by task manager! |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
One of my PCs (5774790 running windows 7) has developed an annoying habit. Everytime I logout, restart or shut down the PC with Boinc running, all current tasks and about 6 new ones crash with computational errors. Try if this (WaitToKillAppTimeout, WaitToKillServiceTimeout) will help: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68120&postid=1326359#1326359 Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
This weekend is a bank holiday weekend in the UK. I Checked my office PCs this morning using logmein and found both were offline. This usually means there has been a power cut at work, so I decided to drive in to reboot the PCs to avoid them being offline until Tuesday. 20 minutes later I got to my office only to find that I had left me office key at home! Drove back home, got key, drove back to work and got into office. Turned out no power cut, but the rooter that handles the wired Internet access was not working. I have no access to the rooter, so nothing I could do except drive home again. When I got home, I realised that I had a wireless dongle attached to my home PC and that PC could manage without Internet access for 3 days. I took it and the driver disk back into work only to find that the CD drive on my main cruncher (the one with the GTX460) would not read the driver mini disk, However, it did work on my other office PC (the one which is the topic of this thread) and after two reboots I got it back online using the university wireless system. This did require two reboots and fortunately I had followed the advice from Glenn and William and last week had both cycled the PC through safe mode and updated BOINC. As a result, no WUs were trashed in this process and the problem appears to have been solved. I eventually got my main cruncher back online by physically moving it to my research lab which is on a different wired router. Unfortunately, whilst it was uploading the 100 finished seti WUs, it decided to download 9 hours of Einstein WUs from my backup project. Overall that took 6 hours of travelling and problem solving to get the two PCs back seti crunching for the whole bank holiday weekend. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Wow, now that should be nominated for the cruncher of the year 2013 award. :) Nice job well done btw. |
MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
The most annoying thing is that today could have been avoided if the limits were raised. 100 shorties on a GTX460 only last about 3 hours. With a 10 day stash I could just have left the PCs crunching offline until Tuesday when the university staff would fix or replace the router. This would have saved at least half the time it took to fix the problems today. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13722 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
The most annoying thing is that today could have been avoided if the limits were raised. 100 shorties on a GTX460 only last about 3 hours. With a 10 day stash I could just have left the PCs crunching offline until Tuesday when the university staff would fix or replace the router. This would have saved at least half the time it took to fix the problems today. Given that the system doesn't fall over as often as it used to, i'd settle for a 1 day cache instead of my previous 4. It would be nice to get through the weekly outage without running out of work. Grant Darwin NT |
MikeN Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 319 Credit: 64,719,409 RAC: 85 |
The most annoying thing is that today could have been avoided if the limits were raised. 100 shorties on a GTX460 only last about 3 hours. With a 10 day stash I could just have left the PCs crunching offline until Tuesday when the university staff would fix or replace the router. This would have saved at least half the time it took to fix the problems today. I would still want at least 4 days to get through problems which occur during long weekends. Between the UK and USA there are a lot of those. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Mike well done I agree with Sirus you deserve the cruncher of the year for your effert . |
ivan Send message Joined: 5 Mar 01 Posts: 783 Credit: 348,560,338 RAC: 223 |
Overall that took 6 hours of travelling and problem solving to get the two PCs back seti crunching for the whole bank holiday weekend. Known in some circles as a "no more sheepdogs" day... |
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