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Message 1360384 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 21:47:49 UTC

Only 2 for me...... I'll let you guess which ones......

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..anyway, rules are meant to be broken!
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Message 1360389 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 21:52:08 UTC

I can manage 3, and no they are not.

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Message 1360397 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 22:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 1360389.

I can manage 3, and no they are not.

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Better make that 3 if this guy gets his way.....

End of speed limits
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Message 1360414 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 22:44:33 UTC - in response to Message 1360389.

I can manage 3, and no they are not.

Young hooligan!


Oh, yes they are, laws and rules are only usually put in place to guide and control the stupid unthinking members of society. Honest thinking people wouldn't break those rules in the first place without good reason.

I regularly break 19, because I turn left into a private car park, if I waited until the turn off area, I and about 200 other people would be using the road for about 10 minutes each time unnecessarily.

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Message 1360488 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 5:39:19 UTC

I agree speed limits should be abolished on some roads and places as are the German Autobahn is a good example where there shuuld be no speed limit .
Like driving from 1 city to the next on the motorway ok for you pom's not having to drive for to long try Australia where it can take 8hrs just to get from 1 town to the next and there straight roads many of them that go for 100klm without even a bend , that alone can make you have a accident boreing as hell and can make you sleepy .Better to put the foot down get to 200klm and get there before you have a crash in 4 hrs than 8
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Message 1360549 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 7:43:43 UTC - in response to Message 1360488.
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I agree speed limits should be abolished on some roads and places as are the German Autobahn is a good example where there shuuld be no speed limit .
Like driving from 1 city to the next on the motorway ok for you pom's not having to drive for to long try Australia where it can take 8hrs just to get from 1 town to the next and there straight roads many of them that go for 100klm without even a bend , that alone can make you have a accident boreing as hell and can make you sleepy .Better to put the foot down get to 200klm and get there before you have a crash in 4 hrs than 8

The reason why some German autobahns have no speed limit is because they were built as runways for fast jets, if the eastern powers came over the iron curtain.

Most speed limits are put in place because of the quality of the roads. If roads are built after national speed limits are agreed then the roads are built to a standard were the damage at that speed is acceptable.

Damage to roads IIRC is a square of speed, or it might be a log function, but it is certainly not a linear function. So increase the limit by 20mph and increase the damage by ~50%. So by increasing the limit it might, unless a lot more is spent on maintenance etc, actually decrease the speeds in a year or two's time because the road surface will be dangerous.

Be careful what you wish for.

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Message 1360553 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:04:05 UTC - in response to Message 1360488.

I did say on CERTAIN roads and the Autobahn is the best example .Everybody know the faster you go the more damage will happen if you have a crash But speed alone doesn't kill if your car is in good condition the weather is ok and your driving on a good road . A big pile up occurred on a American highway not that long ago and it was fog not speed that caused it so the copper is right there are places and roads that should have no speed limits
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Message 1360556 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:17:18 UTC

End of speed limits

Another daft PCC pops their head up. I said that PCC were a very big mistake right from the start, it is another American thing that might work in the States but not over here. I believe there are no speed limits on the Italian Autostrada either. Speed limits are put in place for many reasons.
    To protect the roads
    To protect the public
    To allow for vehicle ability
    To allow for driver ability

Increasing the speed limits will result in road surfaces wearing out faster. Faster speeds reduce reaction times and will cause more accidents. Cars will be driven faster than their safe cruising speed in terms of brakes, steering and suspension. People will tend to drive faster than their abilities to control the vehicle. Although in general terms it is probably true to say that a modern car today at 80mph is probably safer than one at 50mph 10 years ago.

In rush hours around the M25 you mostly cant get over 50mph anyway because of the sheer volume of traffic. On the M1 and other motorways, judging by the lane swopping and other bad driving going on, 70mph is more than fast enough as it is.

Leave well alone and stop meddling!

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Message 1360558 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:24:28 UTC

Speed for speed's sake is only good on a race track. On a highway, one needs more than a heavy foot to get where your going.

Example, 2 lorries (trucks) leave my area to travel to Hartlepool.

Lorry one left at 05:30
Lorry two left at 06:30

Which one got there first?
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Message 1360559 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:28:57 UTC - in response to Message 1360556.

i'm not so shore cars do that much damage to roads even at high speeds I would agree with you if your talking about heaver vehicles ,trucks busses and things roads are built fairly good theses days but a 40ton truck at 110klm or faster yep
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Message 1360560 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:31:54 UTC - in response to Message 1360558.

I'll take a stab and say the second the first broke down or made the rong turn or crashed he did put fuel in it didn't he lol
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Message 1360563 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:38:04 UTC - in response to Message 1360560.

Nope, he stuck to major routes, I was in the 2nd & came off at junction 40 on the A1 & went through Thirsk, got there 23 minutes before him. He didn't check the map.
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Message 1360570 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 1360563.

heheheheheh that's why I love my tomtom
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Message 1360572 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 1360570.

heheheheheh that's why I love my tomtom


Maybe ok for large trucks in ossieland but not here. We have too many instances of native & foreign drivers using sat-nav & taking 44 tonners through places one would be very lucky to take a 3.5 tonner through.
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Message 1360573 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 8:59:55 UTC - in response to Message 1360572.

I useually plan the trip and check it before I start not just blindly follow like most .Sounds like your friend would be better off with a tomtom and not sat nav there crap or just wait and follow you
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Message 1360575 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 9:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 1360573.

That's not possible I'm afraid. He's one of those what the RAF in the old days used to call "below average".

Want the wages but not the work.
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Message 1360576 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 9:13:24 UTC - in response to Message 1360575.

Ahh one of those . Don't check the rig properly or the load lazy we got plenty of them here
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Message 1360580 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 9:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 1360576.

Yeah & I hate them with a vengeance!

Supposed to have been on a Banbury run today, instead I've got to do a Redcar run which they won't allow him to do as its an urgent delivery.

I'll do it in approx. 9 hrs total whereas he'll take 12. Was looking forward to getting home this afternoon around 4.... :(
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Message 1360582 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 9:22:56 UTC - in response to Message 1360580.

I take it it would be to hard to sack him . I'm with you I hate them everybody else has to do more runs or always get the harder longer runs .

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Message 1360585 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 9:30:03 UTC - in response to Message 1360582.
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I don't mind the long runs as a change is as good as a rest, so they say. Guys like him always manages to bring back some loads they failed to deliver & use the old chesnut "Out of driving time".

It's why they always take the long way round instead of the most direct route possible. It's also why I started saying no to extra runs.

Should've been leaving for work in 30 min, instead the Redcar run won't be loaded till 1pm so I'll be lucky if I'm back before 10pm & that depends on how quick I get unloaded.

He would be crapping himself if he could read my thoughts at the moment......
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