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Message 1358742 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 1:38:13 UTC

2015 Exit checks abandoned

Another IT disaster. When will these muppets wake up & realise that Government Contracts are just a free-for-all & needs tightening up!
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Message 1358884 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 9:14:58 UTC

The Home Office insists the coalition's commitment to introducing exit checks by 2015 is still in place. But Keith Vaz, chairman of the Home Affairs Committee, said he did not see how this would be possible without e-borders. He has asked the home secretary to clarify her position. Launched by the previous Labour government, the £750m e-borders project was designed to collate and store on a single database information on all passengers who enter and leave the UK.

The position does need to be clarified.

realise that Government Contracts are just a free-for-all & needs tightening up!

I would generally agree, and particularly in the case of IT i.e. the NHS fiasco. As I have said before, being appointed an Approved Government Contractor is virtually a licence to print money.



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Message 1358947 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 11:26:12 UTC

Continuing on from the 500+ posts in the Last Gasp Saloon .......

Hi Iona, as usual another thought provoking batch of posts from you :-) I pretty much guessed that you were not exactly a Thatcher fan, and of course I see I was right! Like it or not, the majority of the country saw her in the same mould as Churchill who was accorded a full State funeral in 1965, and which is usually reserved for a Sovereign. Had Thatcher wanted one I have no doubt that the Queen would have given permission. The only difference would have been the sailors pulling the gun Carriage. She also asked that she didn't lie in State for the general public to file past, and also no flypast either. It is my opinion that she knew full well that she had been a controversial politician in life, and would continue to be so after her death, so I think that in consultation with the family and advisors, it was probably agreed some years ago that a suitable "toned down" funeral would take place. Whatever, it happened, and it is now in the past. As to the cost, I also think that the majority of the country are happy that the government/us pays for it. Her detractors are in the minority, sorry but there we are!

Moving on, you might to be interested to know that I agree with a lot of your views. We recently saw a list of 40 items that people thought she was wrong to do. As I previously posted, I agree with at least 1/4 of that list, specifically the armed forces cuts and the privatisation of the Utilities. Firstly I opposed service cuts in 79/80 and again just recently with the Defence Review. It was, is, and remains, a bone headed decision to scrap the Ark Royal and the Harriers, and one I think we will come to regret in time. wars in the future will not be single countries against each other as in the Falklands, it will be coalitions against a common enemy as in Iraq, Libya, and maybe yet NK and Iran. However reducing the levels as planned is a cut too far in my opinion.

Regarding the Falklands, of course she didn't invite them to invade in 1982 as a result of the 1979/80 cuts! The truth is that in reality, the Argentine military junta was in serious domestic trouble. High inflation, economic problems,and increasing dissatisfaction for the regime, meant the junta needed a distraction to regain popular support, and a successful takeover of the Falkland Islands seemed the ideal solution. They thought that the small British military presence of only 22 Royal Marines, coupled with a belief that a swift and successful occupation would constitute a fait accompli about which Britain might complain loudly but do nothing 'on the ground' to reverse it, would do the trick. WRONG, NO CIGAR!

Now, nationalised industries, I have already said on the these forums that I opposed the selling off of the basic Utilities of Gas, Water, Telecoms, Electricity, Public Transort & Infrastructure. It was flogging off the family silver, which we now can't afford to buy back. Yes of course they are more efficient because of it, but only the shareholders benefit not the general public. The whole damn lot should be re-privatised tomorrow, but it just can't happen, it was a one-way trip. And no-one is more cross than me about it.

Next, the miners strike. "she used a bunch of thugs and crooks in uniform" is just OTT, sorry. The police have to uphold public order. The miners strike in 84/85 started out because of dyed in the wool, old fashioned, left wing trade union attitudes, which were particularly prevalent in the NUM. Scargill saw his role as protecting his members jobs in numbers, whatever the realities of the situation. He opposed modernisation that could make more money and efficiencyy if that meant loss of jobs, he refused to close loss making pits etc. He could have negotiated re-training, could have negotiated generous severance payments and pensions, but he would have none of it. Scargill was a militant trades unionist, and socialist, with strong leanings towards communism, who was also a very vocal attacker of Thatcher's government Prior to the strike.

It started out as a fight against the National Coal Board because of their 1984 announcement that they intended to close 20 coal mines, with a loss of 20,000 jobs. But it very quickly became a symbolic struggle of the whole Trade Union movement against the Government. Having brought down the Heath administration in 1974, they thought that they were unbreakable. In the event, the political power of the NUM was broken permanently. Three deaths resulted, and it significantly weakened the British trade union movement, Scargill has a lot to apologise for.

Finally, Hillsborough was wrong, of course it was, and we now know that. Let's hope it doesn't happen again. Oh, and as for Council Parking Wardens, I'd string the lot of them up, miserable bunch of little bastards! We had one that used to turn up on a scooter at 6.55am along our road where the parking restriction was 7am to 7pm. At 7.01am he'd start issuing tickets! I wrote to the Council and said you'd better remove him before someone queries his parentage and lets his tyres down. I didn't get a reply, but we don't see him now :-)

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Message 1358964 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 12:52:30 UTC
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As regards the selling off of the basic Utilities of Gas, Water, Telecoms, Electricity,
Public Transport & Infrastructure. Here Chris the government should
have retained a percentage holding in each utility. Hence bringing in revenue
for the exchequer year on year. Who fooled them into not doing this I'd love
to know....
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Message 1359007 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 16:43:35 UTC - in response to Message 1358947.

Damn, another excellent post. Need a new supply of pills! :)

Sorry Chris, should've stated that this was a continuation.
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Message 1359014 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 17:09:07 UTC

Well we've had some really funny excuses over the years with regards to transport problems....

...for example, wrong type of snow on tracks making trains late.....

....but this one beats them all.....

Romans blamed for potholes
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Message 1359024 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 17:33:42 UTC
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Bosses at Kent County Council's Highways Services department - which filled in nearly 15,000 potholes around the county last year - say that potholes keep popping up because it has been using French asphalt. But, rather than putting the blame squarely on the French, roads chiefs also blamed the Roman Empire for not laying the roads on strong enough foundations 2,000 years ago.

Kent has always been an oddball place, previously known as Cantia and then Cent. Probably comes from being the closest part of the UK to France, and inhaling too many garlic fumes. Apart from Chateauneuf du pape, the only good thing that has ever come out of France is the ferry back to England.

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Message 1359027 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 17:40:05 UTC - in response to Message 1359024.

Yep, & to get home, one has to go through Kent.....

....oops, mind that pothole.
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Message 1359054 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 19:06:08 UTC

Yeah well, such is life when living North of the Weald ....

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Message 1359064 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 19:43:21 UTC - in response to Message 1359024.

Bosses at Kent County Council's Highways Services department - which filled in nearly 15,000 potholes around the county last year - say that potholes keep popping up because it has been using French asphalt. But, rather than putting the blame squarely on the French, roads chiefs also blamed the Roman Empire for not laying the roads on strong enough foundations 2,000 years ago.

Kent has always been an oddball place, previously known as Cantia and then Cent. Probably comes from being the closest part of the UK to France, and inhaling too many garlic fumes. Apart from Chateauneuf du pape, the only good thing that has ever come out of France is the ferry back to England.


LOL. Im sure the Romans had a great road foundation for the Ox carts and horse drawn wagons and the thousands of foot soldiers who had to walk the roads.
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Message 1359586 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 0:23:06 UTC

Britain can rise again

A long way to go then, as a ship that is more than 50% flooded will never rise!



The Rats are starting to leave the sinking ship....
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Message 1359613 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 1:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1359586.
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[quote]Britain can rise again

A long way to go then, as a ship that is more than 50% flooded will never rise!



The Rats are starting to leave the sinking ship....[/quote
...and if Osborne knows what he should know about that outfit called the IMF he
will tell her and the rest of that bunch to, "Take a running jump". It's those
cronies financially backing the IMF who are feeling the pinch in their pockets
due to all these austerity measures being applied in Europe at the moment. They
don't care a dam if a country inflates it's economy to the extent of going broke
just as long as what is being spent finds it's way into their pockets at some stage.
The IMF has now lost what little credibility it did have over this latest scam statement.
Telling the UK it was doing the correct thing by applying austerity measures, but now
to change it's stance even though the UK hasn't actually started cutting back save for a bit on the social budget.
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Message 1359717 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 8:27:47 UTC

In plain English, the IMF thinks it’s time for Osborne to ease off on the cuts and go for growth – clearly believing that the two cannot go together.

Osborne will return to Britain this week politically humiliated by the IMF and the credit rating agencies, but unbowed in his efforts to put our economy back on track after the intemperate spending of New Labour.


You can't spend what you haven't got, or borrow what you can't afford to pay back, so we aren't. No need to panic just yet.

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Message 1359782 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 11:55:25 UTC - in response to Message 1359717.

In plain English, the IMF thinks it’s time for Osborne to ease off on the cuts and go for growth – clearly believing that the two cannot go together.

Osborne will return to Britain this week politically humiliated by the IMF and the credit rating agencies, but unbowed in his efforts to put our economy back on track after the intemperate spending of New Labour.


You can't spend what you haven't got, or borrow what you can't afford to pay back, so we aren't. No need to panic just yet.




Not quite. What they are saying is return to the EEC not the EU. Even a blind man can see that!
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Message 1359800 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:44:13 UTC

I've been saying that all along. You're at it again, stop agreeing with me, it is most disconcerting. My local pharmacy is running out of calm me down pills.



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Message 1359801 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:49:10 UTC - in response to Message 1359024.

Chris the French have nukes mate mite not be a good idea to upset them I should lecture you on your lecture to me about things we can and can't post lol hehehe
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Message 1359814 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 13:10:10 UTC - in response to Message 1359801.

Chris the French have nukes mate mite not be a good idea to upset them I should lecture you on your lecture to me about things we can and can't post lol hehehe

We actually only upset the French politicians but not their general populous.
So when us Brits have a downer on the French we only mean their politicians.


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Message 1359817 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 13:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 1359814.

I think and hope he knows Chris I was only steering him I thought it was funny thou
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