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Message 1357155 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 10:42:58 UTC
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Is it just a sexist comment or is he right?

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Message 1357177 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 11:55:39 UTC

Not sexist, but a fact as he sees things. The chances of a female F1 driver competing during a full season is unlikely given the points raised in the link Chris provided.
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Message 1357190 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 12:31:11 UTC

Is it the "glass ceiling" or something in the female psyche that makes women non-competitive in this type of sport. Doesn't stop them in tennis or golf, so what is the difference?



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Message 1357216 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 14:39:21 UTC

It seems woman have no problem being combat pilots, police, mountain climbers or any other risky job or sport. They used to say that about drag racing until Shirley Muldowney came along.

I thinks its just not enough women in the race game. When you start fielding more women each race the odds go up that one will win.
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Message 1357225 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 15:40:11 UTC
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+1

They also make good astronauts as well.

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Message 1357387 - Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 1:14:30 UTC

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Message 1357651 - Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 0:51:33 UTC
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Can't say I agree with Stirling, but will say that I cannot think of one single female driver that has progressed though the ranks that has done sufficiently well to deserve a place in F1.

There have been quite a few female drivers that have performed well up until they have got into F3 or equivalent, and then nothing, a few podium places and I think one got as far as fourth in the F3 championship for one year but didn't iprove in the next year.

So I think the jury is still in the position where the evidence says we do not know. None have shown the ability, or luck, to progress that far and show they are worthy of a place.

Most of the debate is around Susie Wolff at the moment, but her performance in the DTM series wasn't all that good, her position at Williams is due more to her husband than anything else.

The only driver to come through DTM to F1 is Paul di Resta (a Scot by the way, cousin to Dario Francitti). And Jamie Green and Gary Paffett have positions as F1 Team test drivers. These position have come about through the Mercedes connection and the teams they supply engines to.

You could argue that some of it is in the genes as quite a few drivers have family connections to the Sport, Rosberg is the highest placed at the moment. But that begs the question for the females, why hasn't Vanina Ickx been offered a test.

And here is a scientific view, Can Women Compete in Formula 1?

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Message 1357660 - Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 3:02:01 UTC

And this is what they can do with a bit more horsepower.

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Message 1357722 - Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 8:40:30 UTC

I think technically Stirling may be right, but I suspect just a bit of the attitude of his generation that it's a mans sport is in there somewhere.

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Message 1357768 - Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 13:11:36 UTC

I still think that when more women get into racing you will see more women start to win. Lets face it ,Its hard for men to get to the tops and if you only have a few women it would seem upfront that maybe they dont have what it takes.
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Message 1358636 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 18:55:00 UTC
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Is it a matter of ability, interest or a greater adversity to risk ?

Most boys dream of becoming a racing driver at some stage in their lives but how many girls do ?

There are undoubtedly women who have the ability and the interest to be competitive, but of these, how many are prepared to risk their lives at the critical moment required to make the pass that will win them the race ? i.e. Will they keep their foot down, or back off ?

I have noticed over and over again, that even if they have equal or even superior ability, that in general women tend to be more cautious than men. e.g. With my kids, when racing go-karts, my daughter was always about half a second to a second per lap slower than my son when racing. Even though in a lap dash or in practice she could lap faster than him, she was slower under race conditions.

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Message 1358696 - Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 22:38:30 UTC - in response to Message 1358636.

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Message 1358885 - Posted: 20 Apr 2013, 9:16:46 UTC

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