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Message 1361034 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 12:31:32 UTC

Chris That is what everyone who handles a gun should do as soon as they pick one up. See if it is loaded. And before you pass one around , You check to see if it is loaded. And the person you hand it off to should check to see if it is loaded. Even my two grandson Im teaching how to target shoot know that.

I do what those guys at your club did. I check say weapons empty., Hand it to them theyu check and say weapon is empty. And Before anyone asks we keep are fingers off the trigger and muzzle pointed in a safe direction and we dont sweep across our bodys or anyone else.

When we go shooting we have a lot of fun. But saftey is always first priority. Guns are not toys.
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Message 1361037 - Posted: 25 Apr 2013, 12:35:25 UTC
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Totally agree James. And yes we were all told at the start of the presentation, NEVER EVER point any gun at anyone at any time whatsoever. Also we were specifically told not to pull any of the triggers, or they would stop the presentation immediately.

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Message 1365085 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 10:20:31 UTC

Bearing in mind Jim's reasonable warning, I still think this is relevant to this thread. Please discuss sensibly.

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Mr Wilson, who describes himself as a crypto-anarchist, said his plans to make the design available were "about liberty". He told the BBC: "There is a demand of guns - there just is. There are states all over the world that say you can't own firearms - and that's not true anymore.

"I'm seeing a world where technology says you can pretty much be able to have whatever you want. It's not up to the political players any more." Asked if he felt any sense of responsibility about whose hands the gun might fall into, he told the BBC: "I recognise the tool might be used to harm other people - that's what the tool is - it's a gun. But I don't think that's a reason to not do it - or a reason not to put it out there."


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Message 1365124 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 14:16:07 UTC
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I think that at $8,000.00 a copy, Not to many poeple will make them. And when that ABS plastic lets loose and people start losing fingers, hands and eyes the fun will wear off. I didnt catch what caliber it was,( I will go back and reread it. But thats was a huge chunk of plastic for both the barrel and frame.

Now that the cat is out of the bag though. If they figure how to print carbon fiber to wrap a barrel and a frame made of steel Id be worried. But I still think the cost to the average Joe would be to prohibted. And as for terrorist's why would they make them when they can buy real weapons fron an international arms dealer.

You can learn how to make all kinds of stuff on the internet to kill people. this is just another one. It sounds callous but where is the outcry for pressure cooker bombs on the internet.

I know why because this one is an evil gun.

edit- Ok its a .22 rimfire and its a single shot. And also its the printer that cost $8,000 bucks.
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Message 1365146 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 15:39:10 UTC

The 3D printer costs £8000, and at present can only produce items in layers of sprayed plastic. What about in 5 years time when they cost a few hundred each, and can make things out of carbon fibre or sprayed metal? What is the worrying factor though is that the technology bypasses the gun laws, which is the point that Wilson was making. Unless you licence the use of the machines, in theory anyone anywhere can make a gun in private, although you would still need to obtain ammunition for it. The man just can't see that what he is doing must be wrong.



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Message 1365150 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 15:49:44 UTC - in response to Message 1365146.

The 3D printer costs £8000, and at present can only produce items in layers of sprayed plastic. What about in 5 years time when they cost a few hundred each, and can make things out of carbon fibre or sprayed metal? What is the worrying factor though is that the technology bypasses the gun laws, which is the point that Wilson was making. Unless you licence the use of the machines, in theory anyone anywhere can make a gun in private, although you would still need to obtain ammunition for it. The man just can't see that what he is doing must be wrong.

http://www.cncguns.com/
With a drill press and a lathe you can make a gun. Why is a 3D printer a game changer?


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Message 1365167 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 16:29:59 UTC - in response to Message 1365150.
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The 3D printer costs £8000, and at present can only produce items in layers of sprayed plastic. What about in 5 years time when they cost a few hundred each, and can make things out of carbon fibre or sprayed metal? What is the worrying factor though is that the technology bypasses the gun laws, which is the point that Wilson was making. Unless you licence the use of the machines, in theory anyone anywhere can make a gun in private, although you would still need to obtain ammunition for it. The man just can't see that what he is doing must be wrong.

http://www.cncguns.com/
With a drill press and a lathe you can make a gun. Why is a 3D printer a game changer?



I agree Gary. It isnt. And I dont see the end of the world coming from it either. I bet the FBI has allready put the printer on its hot list. And if you start getting 1,000 gallons a month of plastic whatever it is you get a visit.
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Message 1365179 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 16:59:27 UTC

When Apple introduced their LaserWriter in 1985 it was $7,000.

Wiki - LaserWriter

By 2000 a mono laser printer was $100,
Today a colour laser printer is $100.

Message 1365180 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 16:59:59 UTC

The man just can't see that what he is doing must be wrong.


Any Person stating The Above is Wrong.

Bound For It.
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Message 1365214 - Posted: 6 May 2013, 18:08:19 UTC

You are entitled to your opinion Dull.

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Message 1365573 - Posted: 8 May 2013, 0:55:52 UTC

True now we have 3D plastic printing and soon we'll have molecular printing.
Just imagine every junkie will be able to manufacture their own drugs.
Pharmaceutical companies will go the way of the dinosaur.
Drug lords will become small business owners who invested wisely.

Sweetness!
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A bag of sand is still cheap enough that anyone can hide their head in it.

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Message 1366217 - Posted: 10 May 2013, 6:46:33 UTC

Seems our government got nervous about not having enough control over who may or may not fabricate a firearm.....

Pentagon scrubs 3D gun plans from Internet, says designer.



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Message 1366231 - Posted: 10 May 2013, 7:07:24 UTC - in response to Message 1366217.

Too late! Pandora's Box has been opened & nothing can close it!
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Message 1366238 - Posted: 10 May 2013, 7:21:47 UTC - in response to Message 1366231.
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Too late! Pandora's Box has been opened & nothing can close it!

What do you think their panic will spawn next?

Restrictions or compulsory registration of 3D printers?
Or force the manufacturers of the raw plastic to embed micro tags so WHATEVER anybody might make from it could be traced?

This is going to be a panic button for those that wish to further their control of the populace. A setback for the Obama administration, for sure.

And you HAVE to know this is all politically self-serving.
They have not tried to take down every site that posts information about how to manufacture pressure cooker or other bomb making materials in the past, now have they?
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