I would endorse what Ageless says - on some forum full quoting of the preceding post, or "deep quoting" (quoting a whole conversation) are forbidden - think of a forum as a pub conversation - do you repeat what the person before said then add your own "Yeh, that's good"...

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My gripe is people that don't use the quote button at all. Instead, they copy and paste and you can't tell what's quoted and what's new. And the worst current offender is a moderator.

And just to counter what Jord said, using the reply button instead leaves one wondering (in a long thread) just what the post is in reply to. Maybe the reply will make it obvious what it's referring to, but they don't always.

[And if I can throw in a gripe about another project, Einstein's forums don't jump to your new post after you post it, they just go to the top of the page.]

Kudo to Eric, Raistmer, and Jason Gee for working so hard on the Beta Android app.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

I would endorse what Ageless says - on some forum full quoting of the preceding post, or "deep quoting" (quoting a whole conversation) are forbidden - think of a forum as a pub conversation - do you repeat what the person before said then add your own "Yeh, that's good"...

On technical questions its necessary to quote the question.
Otherwise people get lost.

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They only get lost when there are several intervening posts, not when you are responding, and in your case probably giving a very good technical answer, to their problem.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Badges; we don't need no stinken badges.

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Year/day/month what language is that? When I write a date on a check it would be in this format, January 23, 2014; month/day/year. Would you write 2014, 23 January?

It is a pain to figure out if 2013-05-04 is May 4, 2013 or April 5, 2013.

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Gripe:

Year/day/month what language is that? When I write a date on a check it would be in this format, January 23, 2014; month/day/year. Would you write 2014, 23 January?

It is a pain to figure out if 2013-05-04 is May 4, 2013 or April 5, 2013.

They're both wrong.

Kudos: Day/Month/Year as in 23rd January 2014. :p

Cheers.

LOL, I am well versed on all three.

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The year 2000 fear of the end of the computing world changed writing the year from 00 to 2000 helpful in translating dates but I still have difficulty with the 1st to 12th day of the month.

Days should be two digits, years four and months letters; then one can write a date as one pleases.

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yyyymmdd or yyyy-mm-dd makes sense when you are using the date as file names on a computer. Using a letter or two for the month wouldn't be useful in that regard.

Most Americans are used to mm-dd-yyyy or month dd yyyy, but most of the rest of the world expresses it as dd-mm-yyyy or dd month yyyy. This leads to confusion when one sees a date expressed as xx-nn-yyyy and xx and nn are both in the range 01-12. Which is the month, which is the day? If there are any other dates in the document, you can see if they show you how the author thinks, but that isn't always an option.

Kudo to the OP for not griping at us all about going off into a lengthy discussion about this.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

Kudo to the OP for not griping at us all about going off into a lengthy discussion about this.

Off topic? Trying to figure out the date on SETI or its collateral programs, they don't use a standard format, is what precipitated my gripe.

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Most countries in the world tend to use DD/MM/YYYY (The UK, Australia, etc) or YYYY/MM/DD (Japan, China, etc). The USA uses MM/DD/YYY. It might come from the natural way we say dates, as in "I was born on September 23rd, 1960." This would lead to MM/DD/YYYY. But it'ss most likely down to the USA wanting to disassociate themselves from the UK and Europe upon their Independence.

No doubt.

MS Access automatically displays the date and time in the General Date and Long Time formats. The dates appear as, mm/dd/yyyy in the U.S. and as, dd/mm/yyyy outside the U.S.

You can set your Windows computer to whatever format you want and most programs will take their cue from that. Excel defaults to the OS, but lets you set other formats for your data if you want. All the other Office programs probably do the same.

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David
Sitting on my butt while others boldly go,
Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

Would it be possible to get the off-site people to NOT start the outage until 9:00 AM PST? It keeps creeping earlier...(7:30 AM 2day...)

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

Would it be possible to get the off-site people to NOT start the outage until 9:00 AM PST? It keeps creeping earlier...(7:30 AM 2day...)

I think it starts when someone gets in the lab and says "oh right it's Tuesday". For a long while it was starting between 8:00 and 8:30AM PST

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Would it be possible to get the off-site people to NOT start the outage until 9:00 AM PST? It keeps creeping earlier...(7:30 AM 2day...)

Why?

And I believe the backup is still done from the lab, and I remember someone saying that if Jeff does that backup he like to start early.

Being in the UK I would p-refer they did it a lot earlier, can't see it really makes a difference 4 hours is 4 hours any time of day.

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Would it be possible to get the off-site people to NOT start the outage until 9:00 AM PST? It keeps creeping earlier...(7:30 AM 2day...)

Why?

And I believe the backup is still done from the lab, and I remember someone saying that if Jeff does that backup he like to start early.

Being in the UK I would p-refer they did it a lot earlier, can't see it really makes a difference 4 hours is 4 hours any time of day.

Umm, because I get up at 6:30 AM to upload from all my computers, and one hour just isn't enough time for all six of 'em...

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Hello, from Albany, CA!...

Would it be possible to get the off-site people to NOT start the outage until 9:00 AM PST? It keeps creeping earlier...(7:30 AM 2day...)

Why?

And I believe the backup is still done from the lab, and I remember someone saying that if Jeff does that backup he like to start early.

Being in the UK I would p-refer they did it a lot earlier, can't see it really makes a difference 4 hours is 4 hours any time of day.

Umm, because I get up at 6:30 AM to upload from all my computers, and one hour just isn't enough time for all six of 'em...

Maybe you'll just have to get up an hour earlier on Tuesdays. :-)

Cheers.

Would it be possible to get the off-site people to NOT start the outage until 9:00 AM PST? It keeps creeping earlier...(7:30 AM 2day...)

Why?

And I believe the backup is still done from the lab, and I remember someone saying that if Jeff does that backup he like to start early.

Being in the UK I would p-refer they did it a lot earlier, can't see it really makes a difference 4 hours is 4 hours any time of day.

Umm, because I get up at 6:30 AM to upload from all my computers, and one hour just isn't enough time for all six of 'em...

Ahh dial up I assume?

I am sure there was a program or script I used once that could be set to auto connect via a modem at set times, we use to use it at work. Can't remember the name.

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Would it be possible to get the off-site people to NOT start the outage until 9:00 AM PST? It keeps creeping earlier...(7:30 AM 2day...)

AFAWK extremely early maintenance (as this week) happens whenever Jeff is in charge - he's the early bird.

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Sorry to change the subject (and perhaps I've missed some big announcement), but why have't I been seeing my stats for SETI@home in the various cross-project statistics sites (e.g. Free-DC, BOINCstats, etc.)? My client GUI shows my progress, which is fine. However it seems like SETI@home isn't pushing numbers out, or perhaps the SETI servers changed something and none of the other sites are pulling the data? SETI@home seems to also be the only project (that I'm working on anyway) which does not show updates outside of the project site.

Anybody have any info?