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Fred E. Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 768 Credit: 24,140,697 RAC: 0 |
I've been able to get enough lucky hits to stay busy, but have to look often to see what's up. There hasn't been any AP splitting for days.Server Status page looks like it's time to mount some new files, so AP splitting should resume soon. That should help with the work shortage. It's a nice change of pace for them at least being able to send what they can send.+1000 Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web with GoodSearch or shop online with GoodShop. |
mikeej42 Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 109 Credit: 791,875,385 RAC: 9 |
<whine> But I want my tasks now! But I want all my Tasks Now! But I want all my Caches FULL NOW!!!!!! </whine> Sorry.... but I feel much better now |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
<whine> I shall join you in that whine...LOL. I only have 9 rigs against your many. I have Killawatts on a few of them, and they are showing little activity. Dang, it's getting a bit chilly in here. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
mikeej42 Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 109 Credit: 791,875,385 RAC: 9 |
The Einstein project should be happy in my case at least. I had to go add it as a secondary project again because I just can not keep enough work even though all my machines are CPU only. Not what I would like to be doing, but it is better than letting the NULL task get all those CPU cycles. |
RottenMutt Send message Joined: 15 Mar 01 Posts: 1011 Credit: 230,314,058 RAC: 0 |
<whine> stick out your hands and wish, all you are going to get is bird poop. |
ExchangeMan Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 115 Credit: 157,719,104 RAC: 0 |
Actually all kidding aside on this, if you can't even get CPU work units (and I am having the same problem here) where are all the work units going. The outbound pipe is running at twice the capacity of before yet many of us are starved for work. Anyone care to speculate or am I missing something obvious here? |
RottenMutt Send message Joined: 15 Mar 01 Posts: 1011 Credit: 230,314,058 RAC: 0 |
Actually all kidding aside on this, if you can't even get CPU work units (and I am having the same problem here) where are all the work units going. The outbound pipe is running at twice the capacity of before yet many of us are starved for work. Anyone care to speculate or am I missing something obvious here? there are other servers, non seti, connected to that switch so the outbound traffic is meaningless now... |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Well on my 4 running rigs I have has a few "project has no tasks available" but it soon passes and all caches filled!! |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22158 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The splitters and scheduler appear to be very "relaxed" just now. They deliver nothing for a few cycles, then dump a fairly large pile. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Actually all kidding aside on this, if you can't even get CPU work units (and I am having the same problem here) where are all the work units going. The outbound pipe is running at twice the capacity of before yet many of us are starved for work. Anyone care to speculate or am I missing something obvious here? In this message, Josef Segur says otherwise. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Is anyone getting any work? Or am I alone in this respect? The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Mark Wyzenbeek Send message Joined: 28 Jun 99 Posts: 134 Credit: 6,203,079 RAC: 0 |
I just got 21 CPU tasks. The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it's stranger than you can imagine. SETI@home classic workunits 1,405 CPU time 57,318 hours |
Tom* Send message Joined: 12 Aug 11 Posts: 127 Credit: 20,769,223 RAC: 9 |
if you can't even get CPU work units (and I am having the same problem here) where are all the work units going. When Who or What makes the decision to assign a task to 1. CPU 2. ATI 3. Nvidia Roundrobin or based on request or random or persnickity algorythm? |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Actually all kidding aside on this, if you can't even get CPU work units (and I am having the same problem here) where are all the work units going. The outbound pipe is running at twice the capacity of before yet many of us are starved for work. Anyone care to speculate or am I missing something obvious here? Depends what people mean by inbound & outbound. Is it from our perspective, or the routers? Same as the last router- outbound on the Cricket graphs is inbound to the project (Scheduler requests, return of completed WUs). Inbound on the Cricket graphs is outbound from the project (our downloads). Grant Darwin NT |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22158 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Assuming the requesting cruncher has the capability, and the required apps installed: All task types can be processed by any CPU. Nvidia are very bad at processing VLARs so they aren't assigned (or shouldn't be assigned) to Nvidia processors. AMD/ATI in principal have no limits (provided they are above a certain level?). However at one time there was (and maybe still is) a blanket embargo on VLARs being sent to any GPU. Assuming the task is able to be processed by any of the available processors on the the requesting cruncher it is then assigned to the most powerful processor on that cruncher. This assignment is done after a cruncher has made a request for new work, and on a task by task basis. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I just get this:
Uploads and reporting are working fine, I just can't get any downloads, cpu or gpu... The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Actually all kidding aside on this, if you can't even get CPU work units (and I am having the same problem here) where are all the work units going. The outbound pipe is running at twice the capacity of before yet many of us are starved for work. Anyone care to speculate or am I missing something obvious here? My point was to counter rottenmutt's statement that there are non-seti servers on that router - Joe says not so. As to the original question, what has changed is the bandwidth bottleneck is not there anymore, so ALL Scheduler Requests get through, instead of failing due to high traffic or the connection being timed-out before the server reply is sent. Anybody getting "ghost" tasks? As I understand it, the splitters are running at about the same rate as they were before the move, so there are more successful scheduler contacts competing for the same number of available tasks in the feeder (IIRC, 200 at a time, refilled every 5-6 seconds). So more sucessful contacts get the "no tasks available" message. And the current "shorty storm" just makes it worse, since most crunchers process shorties in about 1/5 the time of a mid-range or VLAR task. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
if you can't even get CPU work units (and I am having the same problem here) where are all the work units going. Your BOINC Manager makes the decision and it will fill your fastest resources first before your slowest ones. Cheers. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13720 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I just get this: It generally takes between 2-10 requests to get work. The splitters are no longer producing enough work to maintain a ready-to-send buffer. The fact is most of the time they're not producing enough to even keep the feeder fed. Grant Darwin NT |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I just get this: No ones posted anywhere, so something is a foot, with or without Mr Python. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
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