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Message 1359448 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 17:44:44 UTC - in response to Message 1359346.  


Splitters still struggling.
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Message 1359520 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 21:15:56 UTC

I just had a look in my hosts and the GPU's have a boatload of shorties. Have a lot of Ap's though. I like AP's especialy in the 550TI can run one in 4 hours.


4 hours?!? My 550Ti does the AP's on +/- 1 hour. Check my results.
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Message 1359534 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 21:56:01 UTC
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He likely isn't allocating a cpu core out of his 8 HT on his i7 to the

AP OpenCL 6.04's .

It makes a huge difference for NVIDIA OpenCL tasks.

I am just starting to test a HD7950 for SETI and only stock tasks I get are
AP's no MB's the AP Opencl ATI tasks using 12.4 OpenCL with 13.2 beta 7 Catalyst/Control
take 32 minutes and do not use a full core CPU time is roughly 1/3 the total time. I have been reading here about newer Lunatics AP's and MB's needing a full core for ATI but I will experiment with a stock AP and anonymous MB's
for the HD7950 as I did for the GTX660 I have been running for several months now.
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Message 1359779 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 11:48:00 UTC - in response to Message 1359534.  

He likely isn't allocating a cpu core out of his 8 HT on his i7 to the

AP OpenCL 6.04's .

It makes a huge difference for NVIDIA OpenCL tasks.

I am just starting to test a HD7950 for SETI and only stock tasks I get are
AP's no MB's the AP Opencl ATI tasks using 12.4 OpenCL with 13.2 beta 7 Catalyst/Control
take 32 minutes and do not use a full core CPU time is roughly 1/3 the total time. I have been reading here about newer Lunatics AP's and MB's needing a full core for ATI but I will experiment with a stock AP and anonymous MB's
for the HD7950 as I did for the GTX660 I have been running for several months now.


No im not, But I have debated if I want to free one core up. But if an AP can be done in an hour That kind of clinches the debate. I didnt realize that it made that much of a differemce.
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Message 1359780 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 11:48:30 UTC - in response to Message 1359534.  

He likely isn't allocating a cpu core out of his 8 HT on his i7 to the

AP OpenCL 6.04's .

It makes a huge difference for NVIDIA OpenCL tasks.

I am just starting to test a HD7950 for SETI and only stock tasks I get are
AP's no MB's the AP Opencl ATI tasks using 12.4 OpenCL with 13.2 beta 7 Catalyst/Control
take 32 minutes and do not use a full core CPU time is roughly 1/3 the total time. I have been reading here about newer Lunatics AP's and MB's needing a full core for ATI but I will experiment with a stock AP and anonymous MB's
for the HD7950 as I did for the GTX660 I have been running for several months now.


Now I need to find that post on how to do it.
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Message 1359785 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:03:31 UTC - in response to Message 1359780.  

He likely isn't allocating a cpu core out of his 8 HT on his i7 to the

AP OpenCL 6.04's .

It makes a huge difference for NVIDIA OpenCL tasks.

I am just starting to test a HD7950 for SETI and only stock tasks I get are
AP's no MB's the AP Opencl ATI tasks using 12.4 OpenCL with 13.2 beta 7 Catalyst/Control
take 32 minutes and do not use a full core CPU time is roughly 1/3 the total time. I have been reading here about newer Lunatics AP's and MB's needing a full core for ATI but I will experiment with a stock AP and anonymous MB's
for the HD7950 as I did for the GTX660 I have been running for several months now.


Now I need to find that post on how to do it.

How to do what - free up a core? Go to settings and change 'on multiprocessors use at most x% of processors' to a suitable value (e.g. 80/90 for 6/7 out of 8 cores respectively) If you have local preferences, change the value there.
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Message 1359792 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:22:36 UTC - in response to Message 1359785.  

He likely isn't allocating a cpu core out of his 8 HT on his i7 to the

AP OpenCL 6.04's .

It makes a huge difference for NVIDIA OpenCL tasks.

I am just starting to test a HD7950 for SETI and only stock tasks I get are
AP's no MB's the AP Opencl ATI tasks using 12.4 OpenCL with 13.2 beta 7 Catalyst/Control
take 32 minutes and do not use a full core CPU time is roughly 1/3 the total time. I have been reading here about newer Lunatics AP's and MB's needing a full core for ATI but I will experiment with a stock AP and anonymous MB's
for the HD7950 as I did for the GTX660 I have been running for several months now.


Now I need to find that post on how to do it.

How to do what - free up a core? Go to settings and change 'on multiprocessors use at most x% of processors' to a suitable value (e.g. 80/90 for 6/7 out of 8 cores respectively) If you have local preferences, change the value there.


Thanks William. I changed the local pref to 80 and have 6 cores running now. I take it I can scale that up to get 7 running by going to 85% ?
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Message 1359795 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 1359792.  

He likely isn't allocating a cpu core out of his 8 HT on his i7 to the

AP OpenCL 6.04's .

It makes a huge difference for NVIDIA OpenCL tasks.

I am just starting to test a HD7950 for SETI and only stock tasks I get are
AP's no MB's the AP Opencl ATI tasks using 12.4 OpenCL with 13.2 beta 7 Catalyst/Control
take 32 minutes and do not use a full core CPU time is roughly 1/3 the total time. I have been reading here about newer Lunatics AP's and MB's needing a full core for ATI but I will experiment with a stock AP and anonymous MB's
for the HD7950 as I did for the GTX660 I have been running for several months now.

Now I need to find that post on how to do it.

How to do what - free up a core? Go to settings and change 'on multiprocessors use at most x% of processors' to a suitable value (e.g. 80/90 for 6/7 out of 8 cores respectively) If you have local preferences, change the value there.

Thanks William. I changed the local pref to 80 and have 6 cores running now. I take it I can scale that up to get 7 running by going to 85% ?

Not quite - 7/8ths of the available cores is 87.5%, so you need that figure or higher. That's why William suggested 90, as an easy figure - or you could use 88, then your fingers don't have to move so far.
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Message 1359798 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:37:42 UTC - in response to Message 1359795.  
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He likely isn't allocating a cpu core out of his 8 HT on his i7 to the

AP OpenCL 6.04's .

It makes a huge difference for NVIDIA OpenCL tasks.

I am just starting to test a HD7950 for SETI and only stock tasks I get are
AP's no MB's the AP Opencl ATI tasks using 12.4 OpenCL with 13.2 beta 7 Catalyst/Control
take 32 minutes and do not use a full core CPU time is roughly 1/3 the total time. I have been reading here about newer Lunatics AP's and MB's needing a full core for ATI but I will experiment with a stock AP and anonymous MB's
for the HD7950 as I did for the GTX660 I have been running for several months now.

Now I need to find that post on how to do it.

How to do what - free up a core? Go to settings and change 'on multiprocessors use at most x% of processors' to a suitable value (e.g. 80/90 for 6/7 out of 8 cores respectively) If you have local preferences, change the value there.

Thanks William. I changed the local pref to 80 and have 6 cores running now. I take it I can scale that up to get 7 running by going to 85% ?

Not quite - 7/8ths of the available cores is 87.5%, so you need that figure or higher. That's why William suggested 90, as an easy figure - or you could use 88, then your fingers don't have to move so far.

Thanks Richard, I will try 88% and see what happens.
Will freeing up a core help my GTS 250 any? Im running lunatics on that machine.
And while Im asking dumb questions, My I7 3770 with the 550TI does not have lunatics installed. When the day comes and they get the go ahead If I install them will I loose crunching AP on a GPU?
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Message 1359805 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:59:19 UTC - in response to Message 1359798.  

Thanks Richard, I will try 88% and see what happens.
Will freeing up a core help my GTS 250 any? Im running lunatics on that machine.
And while Im asking dumb questions, My I7 3770 with the 550TI does not have lunatics installed. When the day comes and they get the go ahead If I install them will I loose crunching AP on a GPU?

Depends on the day ;)

Out of the box, the v0.40 installer doesn't include the OpenCL AP for NV app.
It would need to be (semi-)manually added.

If you wait for the next installer (after V7 release), that one is planned to contain all latest releases, including OpenCL AP for NV.
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Message 1359813 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 13:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 1359805.  

Thanks Richard, I will try 88% and see what happens.
Will freeing up a core help my GTS 250 any? Im running lunatics on that machine.
And while Im asking dumb questions, My I7 3770 with the 550TI does not have lunatics installed. When the day comes and they get the go ahead If I install them will I loose crunching AP on a GPU?

Depends on the day ;)

Out of the box, the v0.40 installer doesn't include the OpenCL AP for NV app.
It would need to be (semi-)manually added.

If you wait for the next installer (after V7 release), that one is planned to contain all latest releases, including OpenCL AP for NV.

Thanks William, I can wait for the one with all the bells and whistles.
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Message 1359925 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 17:31:56 UTC
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James, how much faster are running the Ap's now with one free core?

William. How many time for the V7 release? +/- Weeks?
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Message 1360279 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 10:39:44 UTC - in response to Message 1359925.  

William. How many time for the V7 release? +/- Weeks?

No idea. That is entirely up to Eric - when he believes that the applications have been tested enough and the whole system is sound.
Also provided no further problems with apps are spotted that would lead to a fresh round of testing.
Currently a major problem is to get the scheduler to deliver the best CUDA app to the host. So 'not ready yet'
Anyway anybody running stock will just start processing the new tasks.
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Message 1360299 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 12:14:26 UTC - in response to Message 1359925.  

James, how much faster are running the Ap's now with one free core?

William. How many time for the V7 release? +/- Weeks?



Total time to run is about 2 hours and 55 minutes. So I saved an hour by going to 7 cores.
I dont overclock or run more than one WU on the GPU. Yet anyway. I will ask how to do that when I feel more at ease with tweaking settings. I really need to read my ASUS motherboard manual.

One thing that is strange since running Ap's on the gpu is the temps. Im reading 55 C. doing an Ap and 63 C. when I run a regular work unit.
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Message 1360444 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 1:55:39 UTC

And the shorty storm continues.
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Message 1360445 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 1:56:54 UTC - in response to Message 1360444.  

Anti shorty guns powered down, shields are holding...
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Message 1360534 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 7:08:03 UTC - in response to Message 1360445.  


And the splitters are still unable to keep up their production. Rgeardless of the number of shorties, they have been able to sustain 50/s+ in the past even when there were shorties going through the system.
For some reason though they haven't been up to the job for over a week.


And i noticed yet another download record on the Cricket Graphs- 662Mb/s after the outage.
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Message 1360579 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 9:17:45 UTC

I think the Shorties got together and had a litter of shorter shorties
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Message 1360638 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 12:14:04 UTC - in response to Message 1360579.  

I think the Shorties got together and had a litter of shorter shorties


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Message 1360668 - Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 14:04:59 UTC

With the shorties I am surprised there was a steady ~200Mb download rate during the outage.
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