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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22199 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
If it comes up again - right mouse click, then select "hide" and it will vanish. Its a real shame that it is not possible to auto-ignore things like hardware driver updates because they have been the source of so much grief over the years. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Cherokee150 Send message Joined: 11 Nov 99 Posts: 192 Credit: 58,513,758 RAC: 74 |
I just checked my Vista Machines and this dangerous "Important" Update 2823324 is also in the Vista Updates to install. As of 16:48 UTC, Friday, April 12, 2013, Microsoft is still sending it to Vista machines. The only thing they have done for Vista OS's is to deselect it. No disclaimer or warning is included! The public might almost get the impression that Microsoft is not concerned about allowing a Vista OS machine to become unbootable, or that such a disastrous outcome of installing this update might make someone believe they need to buy Windows 7 to get their machine operational again. No, Microsoft is reputable. Microsoft would -never- do that, would they? However, to avoid such an obvious misinterpretation of their motives, perhaps it would have been prudent for Microsoft to include a disclaimer or warning with this update. Better yet, perhaps Microsoft should have removed it from the available updates for Vista, just like they said they have done for Windows 7. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
-[ snip ]- Better yet, perhaps Microsoft should have removed it from the available updates for Vista, just like they said they have done for Windows 7. The update is still available for Win7 PCs as well. Trust Microsoft? Nope, I surely do not! Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Cherokee150 Send message Joined: 11 Nov 99 Posts: 192 Credit: 58,513,758 RAC: 74 |
Well, I might add that, having worked as a professional on all Microsoft OSs and most of their other products since the late 1980s, starting with MS-DOS and Windows 3.0, it is my personal conclusion that the preponderance of evidence I have seen over these decades might easily convince a jury well beyond reasonable doubt that Microsoft's prime motivation is something other than the best interests of it's users. Now this is my personal conclusion based on my decades of personal and professional experience. I may be incorrect. It is simply the most likely scenario I can draw that fits most accurately what I have observed. Perhaps some of you have a similar set of experiences that have provided you with a different conclusion. If so, please let me know. I would welcome any additional input. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
FYI: even if you tell windows not to install driver software from windows update it will still try to do so. http://www.hal6000.com/seti/images/win_update_driver.png SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
What you have to do after you uninstall the update and reboot, is to "Check for New Updates". That will clear it from your Que. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
FYI: even if you tell windows not to install driver software from windows update it will still try to do so. I figured I would report what I have seen. All of my installations out of the box are set to "never install driver software from Windows Update". I change the update setting to "Never check for updates" before saving the image. Perhaps they don't send driver updates when doing automatic updates. However it does seem to be that they will try to push them to you if you manually check with "never check" set. At least this is what I see on my systems with Vista, Server 2008, Windows 7, Server 2008 R2, Windows 8, & Server 2012 in 4 different languages. Since I work in a lab where we test software & drivers no updates of any kind are applied to machines without a specific reason for them. Generally we only apply service packs & makes additional images. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Microsoft would ague that there are a lot of machines running illegal versions .I usually set things to download but let decide to update I got caught last feb when Microsoft attacked everbody wid that update that put that little message on ya background This is not a genuine copy of win 7 so the suggestion that they did it to get the nee bee's to buy a legit copy !!!!! Well they already tried that last feb so wouldn't surprise me if they thought well release this one and by the time everyone reliseses we would have coult heaps of them Microsoft I am not that silly fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me you not gona get a third try |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Microsoft would ague that there are a lot of machines running illegal versions .I usually set things to download but let decide to update I got caught last feb when Microsoft attacked everbody wid that update that put that little message on ya background For what it's worth, all 8 copies I am running of XP and the one of 7 are fully legit. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Mark I like that one your too honest mate |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Mark I like that one your too honest mate Hey, mate.... What does one have, if not honesty, eh? I can get brutally honest at times. It wins me fans and yet it gains me detractors from time to time. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
I agree I do try to be honest most of the time but Microsoft have to learn that the masses can't afford 1,000 bucks every 3yr to by a new op specialy when the new op is only bells and whistles Eg. Vista and win 7 win7 is vista with all the bugs outa it and a few extra bells and whistles I've been told you can make your own version of win 7 with XP pro , Vista, and I think he said Win 2000 don't know if that is correct tho |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
Fastest / lowest-impact way of getting rid of the bad update on Vista/7/8/2008/2012 (not XP): Open a command prompt (CMD in the program name if you can't find it; admin. privileges required obviously) Then type in or paste: wusa.exe /uninstall /kb:2823324 /quiet /norestart Press Enter and you're done. Could be turned into a tiny .BAT of course too. |
__W__ Send message Joined: 28 Mar 09 Posts: 116 Credit: 5,943,642 RAC: 0 |
Fastest / lowest-impact way of getting rid of the bad update on Vista/7/8/2008/2012 (not XP): Some more information about this "bomb" you can find here: http://www.h-online.com/news/item/Microsoft-pulls-security-update-for-Windows-and-Windows-Server-1840815.html __W__ _______________________________________________________________________________ |
Tom* Send message Joined: 12 Aug 11 Posts: 127 Credit: 20,769,223 RAC: 9 |
Windows 7 works a treat Windows VISTA not so much wusa does not understand /uninstall in VISTA just shows a popup with help Need to go to control panel->system->windows update->view update history->Installed updates to uninstall the update Minor Nit Windows 7 will not really uninstall the update until system is rebooted. Afterwards Scotty said Capt. our shields are down to 90% |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
A new copy of Win 7 is less than £100. A student version is cheaper than the retail price. And if you're in Europe, it's even more expensive, for whatever reasons possible. So when I put together a system of mine and saw that the price of Win7 64 bit Ultimate was at the time around 200 euros, I balked. I bought the Student version for less than 70 euros, and later that year did the same thing for another system we were making. This time paying only 50 euros for the Student version. A new copy of Windows 7 is between 90 and 180 euros, depending on 32bit or 64bit, and whether you want Home or Professional. And here's the weird one: Home Premium 32 bit is the 180, Home Premium 64bit is the 90. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
For the record my four 4 Win 7 machines and the one remaining XP one are all legit. As a recently retired IT teacher I couldn't afford to be taken to court, financially or professionally. For my last build I got Win 7 home 64 for $90.00 US. I just bought another copy for the same price thru Newegg for another build. Just have to watch for the sales. [/quote] Old James |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Of course here in the UK you can upgrade to Win 8 for £49.95 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-Pro-Upgrade-Edition-Vista/dp/B008GRKGXK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365969219&sr=8-1&keywords=win+8 OR OEM version for £68.98 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Windows-WN7-00403-English-Version/dp/B009HI2W66/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1365969219&sr=8-2&keywords=win+8 |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
For the record my four 4 Win 7 machines and the one remaining XP one are all legit. As a recently retired IT teacher I couldn't afford to be taken to court, financially or professionally. He definitely shops at the wrong place, a Win7 64-bit OEM Home Premium disk costs $99aud, Pro is $139aud and Ultimate is $187aud where I shop. Cheers. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Have to agree with that. Can get Win 7 Home 32 & 64 for £69.99 & win 7 Pro 64 for £99.99 but the 32 bit version for £102.99. However, for my personal rigs, its approx. £12.60 per copy regardless of 32/64 - all legit & direct from Microsoft :) |
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