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Message 1355081 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 20:49:37 UTC - in response to Message 1355071.
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I hate upgrading old XP era hardware to Win 7 or Vista because it is hard to find drivers!

I loaded Windows Home Server 2011 on a Intel Core 2 MB, couldn't find drivers for the Intel Integrated Graphics. I was able to install Server 2008 drivers in compatibility mode.

I just wish companies would turn over their archived driver code to MS so they could get working drivers for the latest OS. Four year old hardware should still be supported on a new OS.

I can't say I've had much of an issue loading a newer OS onto older hardware.

The server OS's do tend to lack a lot of the extra drivers that the client OS's include. When I setup a new machine at work for testing I only get the MS Standard Video Driver for Server 2008 or R2, but Vista & 7 will have the correct Intel, ATI, or NVIDIA drivers.
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Message 1355098 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 21:50:34 UTC

Many years ago, I moved over from WinXP over to Linux. That has proved to be a far better move than accepting the virus/anti-virus silliness that subsequently developed into what everyone assumes is 'normal' today.

No anti-virus needed. Enjoy the full speed from your hardware!


More of a question is why old versions of Windows linger on for so long...


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Message 1355109 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 22:53:04 UTC - in response to Message 1354977.

The only reason I have moved over to Win 7 is to go to 64 bit computing. I still prefer XP to Win 7 or Win 8. Truth be known, I was even happier with WfWG 3.11 on top of DOS 6.22. I could delve under the bonnet of that and tune it up to the hilt, and I was good at it too.



Blimey, Guv, that takes me back to when I ran a P200MMX, running DOS 6.2, Win 3.1 (with PC Tools V2) and Win 95....triple boot, as it were. I've got 64 bit OS's, but never installed them, due to not being able to find certain drivers. To date, I've found XP Pro (32 bit) to be the most reliable OS that I've used and on this PC, I've not had to re-install or repair the original OS installation, since this PC was put together. On the other hand, my partner's PC with XP Home has been a real pain! Some of that, you could probably put down to the user, but not all. I'll carry on with XP Pro and try to hang onto my hard-earned cash, just a tad longer.




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Message 1355114 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 23:03:18 UTC - in response to Message 1355098.

Many years ago, I moved over from WinXP over to Linux. That has proved to be a far better move than accepting the virus/anti-virus silliness that subsequently developed into what everyone assumes is 'normal' today.

No anti-virus needed. Enjoy the full speed from your hardware!


More of a question is why old versions of Windows linger on for so long...


Happy fast crunchin',
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Only the good versions of Windows linger but if Linux is suppose to be so good Martin then why don't you explain this to us then,

http://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0&qpct=6.

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Message 1355125 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 23:43:14 UTC - in response to Message 1355114.

Many years ago, I moved over from WinXP over to Linux. That has proved to be a far better move than accepting the virus/anti-virus silliness that subsequently developed into what everyone assumes is 'normal' today.

No anti-virus needed. Enjoy the full speed from your hardware!


More of a question is why old versions of Windows linger on for so long...


Happy fast crunchin',
Martin

Only the good versions of Windows linger but if Linux is suppose to be so good Martin then why don't you explain this to us then,

http://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0&qpct=6.

Cheers.

The interesting thing about those numbers is how little share Windows 8 has.

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Message 1355128 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 23:51:16 UTC - in response to Message 1355125.

The interesting thing about those numbers is how little share Windows 8 has.

Actually after testing release candidates of Win8 I'm certainly not surprised at all about its numbers.

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Message 1355131 - Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 0:05:23 UTC - in response to Message 1355128.

The interesting thing about those numbers is how little share Windows 8 has.

Actually after testing release candidates of Win8 I'm certainly not surprised at all about its numbers.

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Yep, I agree. I'll be happy to stay on Windows 7 or Server 2008 R2.

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Message 1355155 - Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 2:25:19 UTC

I'm with you wiggo win 8!! Don't have a touch screen so can't see why I need to update
My arms aren't long enough to reach the 42" Screen across the room in the lounge
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Message 1355164 - Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 3:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 1355155.

i agree about win 8, needs a touch screen. i'm just waiting for MS to eol win 7 by not porting the next version of directX to win 7.
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Message 1355245 - Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 8:09:17 UTC

My paid and voluntary work is requiring more and more a knowledge of WIN 8 so I installed it on my laptop. Once you are past the flashy "Metro" interface it's just a slightly newer version of WIN 7.

Still seeing that extended support for Win 7 will run till January 14, 2020. And Vista till April 11, 2017. I'm OK for a few years yet!!
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Message 1355293 - Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 12:53:07 UTC

Blimey, Guv, that takes me back to when I ran a P200MMX, running DOS 6.2, Win 3.1 (with PC Tools V2) and Win 95....triple boot, as it were. I've got 64 bit OS's, but never installed them, due to not being able to find certain drivers. To date, I've found XP Pro (32 bit) to be the most reliable OS that I've used and on this PC, I've not had to re-install or repair the original OS installation, since this PC was put together. On the other hand, my partner's PC with XP Home has been a real pain! Some of that, you could probably put down to the user, but not all. I'll carry on with XP Pro and try to hang onto my hard-earned cash, just a tad longer.

Iona! Hiya Pal, long time no hear :-)) Gosh, I remember my first Dell, a P133, which I upgraded with an overdrive P200MMX, and I still have the processor as a keepsake! Well, 32 bit computing has more drivers for older kit than 64 bit versions do, so that is a bonus. But 64 bit computing, especially for CPU Boinc applications is noticeably faster. The Home versions of XP and Vista have always been known to be problematical, the Pro versions are fine. Yes, our partners can on occasions throw the proverbial spanner in the works, but we still luv 'em!

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Message 1357070 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 5:42:33 UTC

I'm still running Win XP x64 Edition on my most modern x86 machine, which is a Core i7 980X, 24GB RAM, two GTX 580s in SLI. For gaming I'm finally approaching the end of the line, but I'm simply refusing to give up on that OS.

It's also nice that it can do GPT (other than 32-Bit XP, which can't), that way it was easy to partition my large RAID array. Plus you get StorPort drivers and tons of memory address space.

Also I'm picking my hardware with some care, for instance an Intel SSD, because you can TRIM that on XP and XP x64 using Intel tools.

I was surprised how good driver support actually is however. Most manufacturers still give you XP x64 kernel drivers, even for my crappy Razer mouse or that Logitech G25 racing wheel..

XP x64 till the bloody end! ;) And after that probably more likely Debian than anything else. Unless I'm willing to give Win7 a chance, but I'm undecided yet.
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Message 1357148 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 10:10:19 UTC
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MS are a very silly bunch of people. Seti crunchers are amonst the most savvy in the world, so why not offer us all 75% off the next MS offerings if we help them test the beta versions? And give a donation to Seti for our help.

Makes sense to me ......

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Message 1357149 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 10:15:06 UTC
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As I have stated before, I have 8 rigs running XP Pro...a few 64 bit, the rest 32.
As they are crunch-only rigs, I suspect I shall be able to stay the course for quite a few years yet for Seti work.

The installed base for XP is so large that the most likely limiting factor...NV drivers for the GPUs, shall probably continue to be supported for some time to come.

Crap...I ran NT until it was simply not possible to do what I had to do with it anymore. And I found ways around that for a few years.

To paraphrase Mark Twain...
The rumors of XP's death have been greatly exaggerated.
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Message 1357192 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 12:44:27 UTC - in response to Message 1355245.
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My paid and voluntary work is requiring more and more a knowledge of WIN 8 so I installed it on my laptop. Once you are past the flashy "Metro" interface it's just a slightly newer version of WIN 7.

Still seeing that extended support for Win 7 will run till January 14, 2020. And Vista till April 11, 2017. I'm OK for a few years yet!!

Greetings Bernie,

We were talking with a salesman about Win8 before the release. He told us that Win8 can be used with the classic interface. He also told us that there was/is no way to get Win8 to boot into the classic interface, that it only boots to the "Metro". Is this the case?

To be honest, in my opinion, "Metro" is the most hideous interface ever to come from MS. For a desktop computer that is non-touch enabled that is. If Win8 cannot be booted to the classic interface, this user will NOT be upgrading. If I had a horizontal display, akin to the old PacMan arcade game table, it might be a different story. I cannot imagine any comfort in using it on a vertical display.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

[edit] I'm running Win7 64bit by the way... :) [/edit]
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Message 1357211 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 14:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 1357192.

My paid and voluntary work is requiring more and more a knowledge of WIN 8 so I installed it on my laptop. Once you are past the flashy "Metro" interface it's just a slightly newer version of WIN 7.

Still seeing that extended support for Win 7 will run till January 14, 2020. And Vista till April 11, 2017. I'm OK for a few years yet!!

Greetings Bernie,

We were talking with a salesman about Win8 before the release. He told us that Win8 can be used with the classic interface. He also told us that there was/is no way to get Win8 to boot into the classic interface, that it only boots to the "Metro". Is this the case?

To be honest, in my opinion, "Metro" is the most hideous interface ever to come from MS. For a desktop computer that is non-touch enabled that is. If Win8 cannot be booted to the classic interface, this user will NOT be upgrading. If I had a horizontal display, akin to the old PacMan arcade game table, it might be a different story. I cannot imagine any comfort in using it on a vertical display.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

[edit] I'm running Win7 64bit by the way... :) [/edit]

It is true that you can't "boot" to the desktop , but it is a tile on the interface so a click and you are on the desktop.

If you download one of the many free "Start Menu" programs it will boot to the classic interface. I tried a couple and like this one Pokki for Windows 8.

It now feels like Win 8 should have "out of the box"
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Message 1357236 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 16:03:43 UTC - in response to Message 1357211.

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Greetings Bernie,

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Keep on BOINCing...! :)

[edit] I'm running Win7 64bit by the way... :) [/edit]

It is true that you can't "boot" to the desktop , but it is a tile on the interface so a click and you are on the desktop.

If you download one of the many free "Start Menu" programs it will boot to the classic interface. I tried a couple and like this one Pokki for Windows 8.

It now feels like Win 8 should have "out of the box"

Greetings Bernie,

After I made my post here I was reading in another thread where someone linked to this article about the possibility of Win8 being allowed to boot to the desktop. By Microsoft no less, no third party software required. If this turns out to be true, then I may upgrade after all just as long as I can bypass that hideous "Metro" interface.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Message 1357341 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 21:16:53 UTC
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I too am running WinXP 64 bit on my main two crunchers however upgraded to Win7 on my main workstation. For a third rig, I am now trying out Windows server 2012 and experimenting with the workstation setup, with the help of this site.

@Siran, maybe this link might be of use to you, not sure since I have never used Win8.

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Message 1357496 - Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 10:42:46 UTC - in response to Message 1357341.

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@Siran, maybe this link might be of use to you, not sure since I have never used Win8.

Greetings Vipin,

I'm not sure how that will help me. I'm not running Win8, I'm running Win7 Pro 64bit.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Message 1357503 - Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 11:50:19 UTC

XP was great for its time. I find 7 a lot smoother though. I never used vista for that long though, had one laptop with vista on it and mostly just used linux on it anyways. I do still have an XP box crunching, but I am going to upgrade it to 7 soon.
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