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Message 1351405 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 7:35:24 UTC

Most people think that my country would support North Korea, one of the most important reasons are: North Korea is one of China's important strategic buffer zone, not North Korea in Northeast China will directly face the threat, and China and North Korea has an unexpired "Sino-Korean Cooperation Treaty".
Whatever our leaders is how to think, but our national is increasingly tired of North Korea, North Korea to China's diplomacy has made lots of problems, and the degree of media exaggeration of North Korea is have never even heard of it.

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Message 1351406 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 7:37:20 UTC

With the foolish belief and information occlusion on it, the North Korean regime of information control is very strict, try to make their national folly, like books. They haven't seen the outside world, no new thinking and ideas, view of the world is too small, will think that they should have life, they are happy to have an unrealistic belief (although they do not think that unrealistic), so of course need a religious leader. But North Korea military first policy, each one in 14 soldiers, and soldiers better treatment.

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Message 1351468 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 12:30:31 UTC

Are the politicians in your country getting tired of N. Korea or is it the Chinese people who are getting fed up with N. Korea?
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Message 1351499 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 14:38:08 UTC - in response to Message 1351468.

Specifically, our national is very tired, our politicians is relatively moderate tired.

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Message 1351511 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 15:36:29 UTC

Hi 赵春晖 welcome to the Seti boards,. It is really refreshing to hear from someone on the street, especially from your country.

You are clearly seeing in China, what everyone else is seeing in the rest of the world, that generally speaking, governments do not honestly speak on behalf of the people that they are supposedly elected to represent. I am not surprised at all to learn that 1 in 14 North Korean people join the military, clearly to get a better lifestyle that just being a down trodden member of the public. Given that type of ethos in their troops, they will happily go to the slaughter like armies did in WWI, with orders to go over the top into no mans land.

China is between a rock and a hard place with this continuing unexpired "Sino-Korean Cooperation Treaty". They need to get themselves out of that ASAP. Thank you for posting.

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Message 1351525 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 16:18:16 UTC
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Hello 赵春晖 , welcome to this forum. It is good to see you posting a street view which is different source from the usual posts. Interesting to be made aware of the same weariness described, and the isolated world view leading to this position in North Korea.

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Message 1351527 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 16:36:46 UTC

I dont think 1 in 14 join the military. 1 in 14 are(drafted/forced) into the military, period.

I do think its sad that a country as poor as NK can make its one and only priority military.
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Message 1351547 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 17:47:42 UTC

Hi 赵春晖, it is truly great to have your perspective on this N. Korea debacle.
Do contribute to the other Political threads for it is immensely important for
us all here to see the Chinese take on many of the issues discussed here on Seti.

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Message 1351656 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 23:39:36 UTC

The relationship between China and North Korea have actually been broken, like North Korea tried blackmail China, Kim to North Korea into a state of slavery. The closure is to let people be out of touch with reality, maintenance of the Kim dynasty ruling status. Fighting is to transfer internal contradictions, and the interference of Korea's interior behavior deterrence. The government not enjoy popular support, North Korea is not death, Kim will fall.

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Message 1351660 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 23:44:12 UTC

China and North Korea's border often people fled into China, which we state practice is: after that put them back to North Korea, but later we found, these being sent back to the guy who's tragic, the death penalty is not in the minority. So then we state of "fled North" will take the default method.

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Message 1351662 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 0:02:28 UTC

I saw some netizens think if North Korea war, China may join. I just want to say that this is not possible. In any case, the outbreak of the Korean war will seriously affect China's national interests.

Let me briefly introduce "the people's Republic of China and the friendly cooperation of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and mutual assistance treaty" signed in July 11, 1961, Beijing, the representatives of both sides respectively, Zhou Enlai and Kim Il-Sung. The treaty is to ensure a Contracting Party in a state of war, a full military and other assistance to the other contracting party. The validity period of twenty years, such a request shall be modified or terminated, prior to the expiration of the other half to put forward, otherwise "treaty" automatically extended for twenty years. In 1981 2001, "China-DPRK friendly cooperation and mutual assistance treaty" two automatic renewal, it is valid until 2021.

Because the treaty restrictions, China could not just looking at the outbreak of war. I think that if North Korea really the outbreak of war, the first hands-on not America, but china. China is expected to get rid of the Kim regime.

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Message 1351663 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 0:14:45 UTC

Also, there is no need to worry about the outbreak of the Korean war. Kim has not stupid enough to dare and South Korea and the United States at the same time, war, Kim's nuclear weapons is to increase the components of blackmail. Because their country is too poor, Kim Jeong-eun used the computer is bought from china.

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Message 1351664 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 0:22:08 UTC

Thank you so much for posting your thoughts on this.
Nobody wants war, and we can all benefit from talking to each other.

Thank you!

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Message 1351670 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 1:07:18 UTC

Hi 赵春晖. Thank you for educating some as to the Chinese position.

Frankly I don't know how crazy Kim is. Perhaps he really does think the world will come to save him from his own stupidity. Almost like some of the religious crazies who have attacked America believed everyone would join them.

The world is a very different place than it was in the 1950's. Why Kim can't sit down and sign a peace treaty and join the group of responsible nations is beyond me to understand. He would be able to put his citizens to work growing the country. He would have trade. He would have assistance. Is he really so self deluded? If so, he really may be crazy enough to start a nuclear war.

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Message 1351704 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 5:07:52 UTC - in response to Message 1351675.

Have to say, your media claimed that China launched against the United States network intrusion, but our country media announced that most of China's IP in the United States of America Network intrusion. I'm afraid the truth is, the two countries each other in launching the network attack each other.

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Message 1351706 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 5:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 1351675.

I don't like people with tainted glasses look at China's socialist, as a Chinese, I know more clearly, Chinese socialism has not decades ago, not red, it is no longer a fanatical worship, is not entirely without faith. People pursue the wonderful life and work, and no distinction between you. I saw many people criticize China's not free speech, though I can't deny, but I am very clear our nation for generations to make the contribution for the freedom of speech. Although our country has many problems, such as corruption, censorship, but it is undeniable is turn the world upside down the change in our country compared to several years ago, I love my motherland.

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Message 1351757 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 11:51:40 UTC

You know 赵春晖, I am liking more and more what I am hearing. You have a more realistic view of your own country than most here have of theirs. We could learn a lot from you, I am glad you're here :-)

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Message 1351765 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 12:30:04 UTC - in response to Message 1351757.

My English is not good. Most of my time to see English must check the translation software, to be honest, this process is very painful.

I like to talk with you, this is a completely different feeling. You know, I am now university the third grade, my classmates are divided into two kinds of people: all day in the dormitory to play games or sleeping people, all day preparing for the postgraduate entrance examination in the library.

I usually talk to them, most of them only talks about the game, basketball, girl talk, I feel very depressed....

In this platform, I see a lot of smart people, many respected elders, I began to like here, I think I can learn many things from you for a lifetime.

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Message 1351969 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 21:58:50 UTC

赵春晖, Your presence is very welcome here. I hope that you can overlook some of the more radical people here and we can learn from each other.
I find it very refreshing to meet people from other cultures.
It is good to exchange views and try to understand other cultures...Much better than fighting.
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