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Message 1351558 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 18:11:00 UTC - in response to Message 1351487.  

Something for the Eurozone to think about?

China & Brazil sign currency swap agreement

That is tantamount to having a single world currency so beloved of sci fi writers. If it can't work on a small scale with the Euro what hope is there for a larger scale version?

But it can and there is an example, however it appears as if Europeans don't want it to.

There is a world currency, it's called GOLD but no one wishes to use it. You
can't debase Gold in the same way that you can with your currencies.


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Message 1351605 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 19:59:14 UTC - in response to Message 1351558.  

You sure about that Nick?

As far as the UK is concerned......

.....WHAT GOLD?
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Message 1351613 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 20:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 1351611.  

Yep, & the end of the article is very apt!

"It was a lesson which could have acted to restrain all players in the credit market boom of the 2000s. It was a lesson which nobody learnt."

I've said it before & I'll say it again.....

"Show me an honest, truthful & trusted politician & I'll show you a liar!"
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Message 1351673 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 1:39:48 UTC
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LOL, I was hammered not to long ago here for saying the same thing--What gold?

I also see that no one has gone after the unions and austerity measures.

We will see a domino effect.

10 states with a huge problem, bigger then alot of Countries.
Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...
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Message 1351793 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 14:06:17 UTC

Still a fly in the ointment....

UK challenges new EU demand for 2013 budget cash

"MEPs back the Commission in saying the extra - called an amending budget - must be paid to cover the 2012 bills."

Of course these rats are going to agree - they still want their £200 attendance allowance even on a Friday when there is no EU business to discuss.
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Message 1351885 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 18:04:38 UTC
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"MEPs back the Commission in saying the extra - called an amending budget - must be paid to cover the 2012 bills."

I wonder if my company's accounts department will permit me to have an ex-gratia
top-up to my salary for this year. On the pretence that I have over spent and
so can't meet all my financial commitments to year end. "Foreign Office", they
would say to me. And if one knows Nick then one knows what Foreign Office in
this pretext stands for. In'it good a? we pay the ECM for the privilege of
importing more from them than we manage to export to them. As we all know, if
we left the ECM then nothing regarding imports/exports to Europe would change
one iota. The question is then why do we remain a member?

Foreign Office....hint!! 'F' is the significant letter from this word.
I now suspect that you can work out those significant letters from the other
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Message 1351904 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 19:08:35 UTC - in response to Message 1351895.  

We don't pay The EU for anything, there is what is called a Trade gap.

What's the £50 million a day for?

The trade gap, will start to deteriorate again now that the value of the Euro
is dropping down against the Pound.

The ECM, ERM, EMS, call it what you like we all know what one another are referring too.

Still, Chris, you have not stated what would change financially between us and
Europe if we were to leave this joint venture. Naturally we would save ourselves
over £50 million, actually a hell of a lot more as there are many hidden costs
to our industries that we pay just to adopt many Brussels regulation. Costs
that our competitors outside Europe do not have to face yet are still free to trade with Europe ad-hock.



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Message 1351917 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 19:30:56 UTC - in response to Message 1351904.  

We don't pay The EU for anything, there is what is called a Trade gap.

What's the £50 million a day for?

The trade gap, will start to deteriorate again now that the value of the Euro
is dropping down against the Pound.

The ECM, ERM, EMS, call it what you like we all know what one another are referring too.

Still, Chris, you have not stated what would change financially between us and
Europe if we were to leave this joint venture. Naturally we would save ourselves
over £50 million, actually a hell of a lot more as there are many hidden costs
to our industries that we pay just to adopt many Brussels regulation. Costs
that our competitors outside Europe do not have to face yet are still free to trade with Europe ad-hock.



That is not true. If the US wants to sell anything in Europe we have to adopt those ISO 9000 rules.
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Message 1351925 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 19:43:57 UTC - in response to Message 1351895.  
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If you just want to have a poke at UK and Euro politicians à la Sirius, there are better ways to do it than allude to significant letters, which are only in your mind. Oh and by the way there is no such thing as the ECM, maybe you mean the ERM which which was introduced in 1979 as part of the EMS. ERM

C'mon Nick you have done, and can do, a lot better than this.


Now now Taffy, after some excellent posts these past few days, reverting back to your "politico speak" dosen't become you.

When the news is good, I post it to offset the bad. However, our continuing bumbling within the Eurozone will just continue to create bad news with the muppets driving the country.....

...slowly but seurely, driving it off the cliff.

Unfortunately for those T**t's I'm not a lemming, so will continue to ridicule them until they wake up & see that the citizens of their country have had enough!

By the way, did you hear the serious broadcast on Radio Cymru this morning?

It was the Welsh Assembly announcing that they would like all Welshmen to return home as there is an extreme shortage......
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Message 1351984 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 23:00:45 UTC - in response to Message 1350876.  

We've taken your money & grown fat off the proceeds.....

...we messed up & you're going to save us....

.....you got richer than us, so we're going to hit you with a 40% tax - a one-off atm, but we'll bear it in mind for the future.....

...we don't wanna run out of dosh so....

.....Cyprus to bring in weekly withdrawal curbs

What next? Telling us how to spend it?


Thought so.......

Luxemberg warns of investor flight from Europe

"In Luxembourg, leaders are warning that applying the Cypriot bailout model -- a levy on bank deposits -- to other crisis-plagued countries could lead to a flight of investors from Europe. But the EU is considering the option anyway."

I'm going to get roasted for this, but I'm sticking to my guns......

"I was a good soldier," says Heinz Otto Fausten, which seems like the beginning of a sentence that can't possibly turn out well. But then he says: "I see today that because of that, I was merely a good tool for an unbelievably criminal regime."

Make no mistake, this is where the European Commission will eventually take us!

Source: - The Last Battle of a German WWII Veteran Part 1
Part 2

Until "Das Boot" hit the screens, most WWII films were mainly Hollywoodised. The German ZDF mini-series "Unsere Mutter, Unsere Vater" (Our Mothers, Our Fathers)shows how the war affected the other side.

Just wondering if any nation in the EU will broadcast it on their channels!
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Message 1352050 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 7:50:21 UTC

That is not true. If the US wants to sell anything in Europe we have to adopt those ISO 9000 rules.

That's only one James, although quite comprehensive, but there are many
regulations that are only applicable within Europe.

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Message 1352057 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 8:56:18 UTC

Actually ISO 9000 is not a mandatory requirement for selling into Europe, in that it is not enshrined as such in legislation. It may be a contractual requirement, in that the purchaser imposes it as a condition of sale.
There are however a number of mandatory requirements, such as the EMC Directive, where it is illegal to sell manufactured items into the European market that are listed in the regulation that do not comply with that regulation. Some of these regulations are quite sensible, others are frankly "barking".
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Message 1352119 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 13:36:29 UTC

The fuse is burning fast & bright.........

Savers now facing a potential 60% deduction

"President of Cyprus says there is 'no intention' of leaving the eurozone"

Those words Mr President will come back & bite your ass!

You hit your citizens that hard & we'll see how long you remain in power as well as Cyprus remaining in the pig sty known as the Euro.
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Message 1352187 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 17:58:29 UTC

ISO9000 is a total toss

It is only concerned with paperwork (in my experience) not the quality of the product.

Your products may be total crap, but as long as the paper trail says they are total crap, you still get the ISO9000 certification.

I have been with companies seeking this certification and when the "inspectors" came around, all they were interested in was the written procedures, work instructions etc. Not once did they go out and look at the workshop or factory floor. In one case they only went to "head office" which was an administration centre only.

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Message 1352201 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 18:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 1352187.  

ISO9000 is a total toss

It is only concerned with paperwork (in my experience) not the quality of the product.

Your products may be total crap, but as long as the paper trail says they are total crap, you still get the ISO9000 certification.

I have been with companies seeking this certification and when the "inspectors" came around, all they were interested in was the written procedures, work instructions etc. Not once did they go out and look at the workshop or factory floor. In one case they only went to "head office" which was an administration centre only.

T.A.

Ive been employed for two companys who went through the process. And both times they were on the shop floor. The last time is where I work now. And we are do for recertifacation this year. But I agree they look at paper work.
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Message 1352294 - Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 1:35:15 UTC

No chance of the fuse being extinguished just yet.........

It's ROBBERY!

Couple of statements that says it all.....

"For a currency that promised to provide a sure bet on a glorious future, the euro is turning into the biggest theft of people’s savings in Western Europe since the war."

"But all this human sacrifice in the eurozone – austerity, mass unemployment, arbitrary bank account levies – is about saving the euro. You wonder how much pain there has to be before someone realises that what must be sacrificed is the euro itself."

Europe sleepwalked into WWII.....

...Will we see worse?


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Message 1352339 - Posted: 31 Mar 2013, 6:45:54 UTC - in response to Message 1352187.  

ISO9000 is a total toss

It is only concerned with paperwork (in my experience) not the quality of the product.

Your products may be total crap, but as long as the paper trail says they are total crap, you still get the ISO9000 certification.



Thanks Terror, clearly you know what many others involved in Quality Assurance
state regarding ISO90000. My brother for one, he spent many years cutting his
teeth in QA and the words you used are virtually the ones he used in telling
me this donky's years ago.

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Message 1352808 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 12:45:59 UTC

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Message 1352878 - Posted: 1 Apr 2013, 14:58:49 UTC

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