The only reward we get out of SETI is credits. Is it too much to ask to be allowed to look at them before deletion? They are now whipped away immediately credit is granted.
No wonder the "Pending" facility is not available - the "Results" list now only contains Pendings. If it is supposed to be a RESULTS list, PLEASE let us see the RESULTS! At least for a day or two. Or are you so short of room that you do need those Hollerith cards recently offered?

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There was the same question here: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7119

Just look at it there is already the answer.

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> There was the same question here:
> http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7119
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> Just look at it there is already the answer.
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That thread wasn't the same question. The answer is not the "answer" to this thread.

This thread is not a question, it is a request. We want to see the credit granted for our results.

If a computer starts to produce errors and isn't getting credit for either all workunits or some workunits we have no way of seeing the problem when results are deleted immediately.

If there is an add-on that shows granted credits for results someone let us know, please.

I agree Bill, the Granted Credit Wu's are being wiped out much to fast, either instantly or within a few minutes of being granted the credit. You have no Idea how much or if even any credit was granted for that WU ...

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I agree. It makes it diffucult to keep an eye out for rouge machines that may be returning bad results or even just follow your results if they are removed from public view so quickly. Part of the fun is following your results and learning how to tweak your system.

Is there any way you Berkeley guys could write it in so results are only deleted from public view, say 1 week, after being granted credit.

Ned

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Why wait for Berkley to add this request? Aren't there plenty of add-on programs out there that gather information on WU results? I'd try running one of those to see if it gives you what you're looking for. Good luck!

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> I agree. It makes it diffucult to keep an eye out for rouge machines that may
> be returning bad results or even just follow your results if they are removed
> from public view so quickly. Part of the fun is following your results and
> learning how to tweak your system.
>
> Is there any way you Berkeley guys could write it in so results are only
> deleted from public view, say 1 week, after being granted credit.
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> Ned
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Hi Ned,

Agreed.

Regards Hans

P.S:

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i'm having boinc mapview as well as logx installed, and still: I would like to see my results on the homepage for some days at least. there is no need to keep them there forever, but seeing how wus return well is like playing the postman: you want to see your wus returned well. so please re-enable this feature.

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This has been discuss in Alpha, but is not high piority.

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Fred
BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

hmm, is it really that difficult to be a bit flexible to respond to user needs. correct me if I am wrong, but (imho) the fast deletion of results was only enable some days ago; thus it should be no problem to switch it off again.

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> hmm, is it really that difficult to be a bit flexible to respond to user
> needs. correct me if I am wrong, but (imho) the fast deletion of results was
> only enable some days ago; thus it should be no problem to switch it off
> again.
>
>

Yes the workunit expiration was fine a couple of days ago, but this change just took place. I don't have a chance to see how much credit is being granted. I also liked to use that page to see if any preference changes might have effected CPU time.

> This has been discuss in Alpha, but is not high piority.
> Fred
> BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

This doesn't sound like an issue with the BOINC client itself, but rather the online servers/databases, but correct me if I'm wrong.

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I assume the reason they [dev] decided to clear the verified results was to clear the bottle neck with the database.

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Fred
BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

As far as I can see, logx does not show individual work unit credits. It only gathers the processing data from one's own computer, and individual credits are not relayed back to us, only the total, which we now have no way of checking if a fault arises.
As for clearing a bottleneck - I don't believe it. For months the credits were left in the results file for us to look at. Why only now has this problem arisen? If they want to clear some space, then they can delete the download errors from the results files.

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Has the database crash since they change the setting?
Before it crash two or three time and it was a good thing that there was a backup so there was only a few lost wu's compared to all of them.
It also took 2 days to recover.
Don't get me wrong I would like to see the results left for a few days maybe a week.
Right now we are testing a new and faster server in Alpha.
As I said before leaving the results for a week or so was discuss, but not a high priorty.

It should act the same as the current alpha test, but
things are different under the hood:

1) it's using the new Dell 2850 server, much faster than the SPARCs,
and Linux instead of Solaris.

2) it's using a new rev of the BOINC server software that has
nifty new features (e.g., work distribution is prioritized,
so that we can give AP priority over S@h or vice versa).

-- David

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Fred
BOINC Alpha, BOINC Beta, LHC Alpha, Einstein Alpha

Yes, there was crash between about mid-day and 22:15 UTC on 4 Dec. No one could get work units.

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Now we can't complain "how come I only got 23.1 credits and they got 34.5?"

The results pages now should be called the "non-results" and/or "pending results" page(s).

Kind of reminds me of an old car I once owned. The odometer was broken. I knew I drove from point A to point B, and I had a feeling how far I drove, but I was never quite sure.

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Just a thought here folks...

We have noted in the past that there are problems with the design of the database and the way that it was implemented. I noted today that there was a recent schema change (on the entry page) and my guess is that they are deliberately moving the data out of the database for these reasons.

With lots of data resident, the changes to the schema take longer resulting in long downtimes, less data means that changes are faster and less downtime.

So, though we would like to see the data now, maybe, just maybe, we are in the process of getting what we want!

Pending credit page was turned off because of the impact on the database performance. We just need to hang in here and not get excited ...

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A change was made to DB during the recent 24hr database downtime (2hr actual), where a record is made of when each WU's DB field is modified (date/time).

Before, when they turned on the deleter, it would just go through the DB deleting any/all records that were granted credit (fully processed). These could have been granted credit a month before, or 10 seconds before the deleter scanned that WU record.

Not implemented yet, but plans are to use the [modified] DB field to implement a delete after xx time so granted credit records hang around for a bit for people to browse them.

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