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Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
I've taken this out of the North Korea thread as it was rather off topic there. For the UK as a whole then no the effect will not be so pronounced as it was back in the 40's. Increasing the public's spending power unfortunately will just suck in more imports so causing our balance of payments to deteriorate even further. Further to this, since this "depression" is both private & public sector debt lead then putting more money into the public's hands will just end up being used, by the public, to pay-down debts hence will not find it's way back in to the economy to the level most in government would wish to see. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Well it won't be long now..... "Winnie's Ghost" Set Europe Ablaze! Except this time around, the Yanks will stay out of it & recover their own economy by supplying the weaponery & picking up the pieces of what's left at a fraction of the cost! It would be nice if the rest of Europe then left Brussels to rebuild alone! |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Well it won't be long now..... Ane I hope we do stay out of it. Europe hates are guts anyway, As does most of the planet. Im sick of the US being the world cop and spit on. You have the Euro zone now, take care of your own security. If I had my way every overseas base would be closed. And screw foriegn aid. We give money to dictators who screw over their own poeple. Teddy R had it right when he said Talk softly and carry a big stick. [/quote] Old James |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Unfortunately James, if another politician such as Teddy R came on the scene & attempted that, he would be castigated by the 'uman Rights & Civil liberties brigades! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
In the UK we call it an iron fist in a velvet glove. Something British diplomacy is famous for. For which will be highly ineffective should Europe blow for a 3rd time. The UK no longer have an Armed Forces to cover a conflict of that size. |
Horacio Send message Joined: 14 Jan 00 Posts: 536 Credit: 75,967,266 RAC: 0 |
And screw foriegn aid. We give money to dictators who screw over their own poeple. Do you really believe that rich countries give money to the poor ones for compassion? (Im talking about political giveaways not private/charity institutions) Some countries has helped the dictatorial regime in our country and maintained close comercial and personal relationshis without any compassion for the brutality that regime was applying to the people... There was even some leaked documets about money beeing sent personally to the dictators in charge to apply certain kind of economical meassures intended to beneffit other countries against the local economy... (of curse, as always when something related to corruption is vented, there was no way to proove that it really happened...) Ive said "some countries" without naming anyone on pourpose to not hurt anyone's sensibilities with things that I can't personally proove... |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Ane I hope we do stay out of it. Europe hates are guts anyway, As does most of the planet. We were the world cop before 9/11, Much to the chagrin of most of us citizens. Korea, Vietnam,, Just for starters. We propped up every 3rd world dictator even though they hated us because of communism. The wall fell because the Soviet Union couldnt outspend us. WHOOPPEee. Didnt do us a lot of good either. And why do we need bases in Europe? So if something happens and Americans die we can join the fray? Germany is and allways has been a pretty tough country. Im sure that the Russian hordes wont make it far through the Fulda gap. Now as far as Iran goes, We are responsible for that. If we had left Iraq alone those two idiot rulers would have destroyed each other. As to aid you have a good idea. I have no qualms with the UK. Thay stand by us as do a few other nations. Its allright to critisise us to. But i think its time we let other nation states or unions start taking some of the heat in the world stage. [/quote] Old James |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Good God Man! You serious? You want other nations to increase defence spending? Wot, & leave the trough dangerously low for them to sup at? C'mon, stop dreaming! |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
LOL. I know what you mean. That would mean more money for our politicans to give a way. [/quote] Old James |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
As I have stated before, if Nostradamus is to be believed then WW3 won't involve either the UK or America....just those across the channel in Europe. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It was the USA's choice to become the world cop, you the people demanded it after 9/11 to avoid it happening again. When you are in that position, of course you will be vilified, you would expect to be. Started a little before 9/11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Well, there is one way. We sell them the arms. Now we would have to be sure those arms are only partially effective so we can sell to both sides, and make sure they have an expiration date so they have to keep buying them from us. Our treasury get fat on their hate. :) |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
@Nick - Nostradamus has pretty much been ridiculed over the years. If you publish hundreds of Quatrains for long enough, one or two of them have half a chance of being partly true. WW3 is more likely to start in the Middle or Far East. ...or way off the White cliffs of Dover. Funny, that's what I have said in the past about Nostradaus, "He published so many Quatrains that some had to come about at some time in the future". The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
I still don't see a ground war starting in mainland Europe, Not whilst there's an ECM binding Europe together with it's common currency. One good reason why Brussels would be worried if the UK did leave the ECM for the UK could then pick and chooses who's it's friends are in Europe. The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I still don't see a ground war starting in mainland Europe, If that was still a realistic possibility we would not have withdrawn the BAOR. An economic war yes, as we are having now. Conflicts involving troops, tanks, and guns are mainly in the Middle East, and possibly in the Far East in the future if Korea blows up again between the North & South. So with what has been seen in Athens, Nicosia & now Paris - if the issues affecting the EU get a lot worse, there is no way the police of each nation could handle that type of civil unrest so troops will have to be put on the ground...... ....Bloody Sunday writ large........ ...or will you label that "police action"? Remember of the 3 known "Police Actions", it currently stands at 0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses..... just in case you can't remember.... Korea, Vietnam, Northern Ireland. |
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