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Message 1346858 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 14:54:52 UTC - in response to Message 1346816.  


Perhaps if more British newspapers were British owned we wouldn't be having this problem ....



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Message 1346869 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 15:15:15 UTC

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Message 1346912 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 17:00:34 UTC

I certainly think Cameron is off his chump on this one, and the legislative underpinning recommended should be implemented.

The £1 million fine limit should also be changed to £100 million. Such a fine would bankrupt a newspaper, and might frighten them in to behaving properly.
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Message 1346969 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 18:49:59 UTC

Don't wont any politicians having any direct control over the press.
Else we will end up like France where mistermeaners by M.P's get hushed up.
God knows what kind of Huhneite antics politicians will get up to that we
would never get to know about.


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belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
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Message 1346985 - Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 19:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 1346980.  

Private Eye contributor here...

& politicians are?

Don't be so naive!
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Message 1347324 - Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 15:13:05 UTC
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I have to ask you who live in the UK and Europe if you have seen newspapers closing down?

Here in the states a lot of newspapers have shut down and in my own city we have had one shut down a few years ago and now the last one only prints a hardcopy 3 times a week. They do have a website but I dont like readin a whole paper online. and that is a watered down version to boot. When I read a paper I just dont want the local, regional or state news. I want the whole world picture. I like knowing what is going on in the rest of the US and the world.

But it seems like the younger twitter facebook crowd just likes to see a 2 paragraph indepth look.

edit- and if this is off topic just redX it and It will be gone.
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Message 1347325 - Posted: 16 Mar 2013, 15:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 1347324.  

The nationals are still going strong, but many of the locals have closed down or merged.
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Message 1347958 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 2:35:52 UTC

Yep, we should have a law controlling the press....

...stating that they must understand English, do their research properly & also ensure that they can proofread their copy.....

Surviving Dambuster reveals how he celebrated - with a cup of tea!

"The Sorpe dam was badly damaged by the daring night-time raid, orchestrated by wing commander Guy Gibson and bouncing bomb inventor Barnes Wallace".....

..that's Barnes Wallis you Dimwit....

"It was only when they flew back to RAF Scrapton in Lincolnshire.".....

That's R.A.F. Scampton you scallywag!
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Message 1347963 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 3:29:23 UTC - in response to Message 1347324.  

But it seems like the younger twitter facebook crowd just likes to see a 2 paragraph indepth look.

I think they no longer have an important quality to even care about the news. They don't care about others anymore. I'm not sure they can tell or even care about the difference between truth and fiction. It is this that will allow press censorship to grow unabated.

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/16/american-teens-gripped-by-epidemic-that-crushes-empathy/?intcmp=obnetwork
How could this happen? I believe American teens are in the grips of a psychological epidemic that has eroded much of their capacity to connect with genuine emotion and is, therefore, crushing their empathy.

Having watched tens of thousands of YouTube videos with bizarre scenarios unfolding, having Tweeted thousands of senseless missives of no real importance, having watched contrived “Reality TV” programs in which people are posers in false dramas about love or lust or revenge, having texted millions of times, rather than truly connecting and having lost their real faces to the fake life stories of Facebook, they look upon the actual events of their lives with no more actual investment and actual concern and actual courage than they would look upon a fictional character in a movie.

They are absent from their own lives and those of others. They are floating free in a virtual world where nothing really matters other than being cool observers of their own detached existence, occasionally alighting on one another’s bodies, in sexual embraces that remind them—for an orgasmic moment—that they are actually alive and actually human.

The psychological epidemic dissolves courage and compassion and is the most virulent and dangerous one our culture and the world has ever faced. It could ruin us.

What was once referred to as “the bystander effect”—a psychological phenomenon in which individuals in a crowd tend not to step forward to save a victim, is now an apt label for a large percentage of teens. They are bystanders in their own lives. They are bystanders to the lives of others. And just as they may stand by as a “friend” of theirs is brutally sexually assaulted, humiliated and degraded, they could stand by as forces of darkness gather to confront the American ideals of liberty and justice.

Dr. Keith Ablow is a psychiatrist and member of the Fox News Medical A-Team. Dr. Ablow can be reached at info@keithablow.com


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Message 1348037 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 11:06:48 UTC - in response to Message 1348028.  

One thing bothers me with the report by the BBC if it is indeed correct.....

"UPDATE 4: 10.30am: I understand that a representative of the pressure group Hacked Off was in the room through the night when the deal on press regulation was agreed by all parties last night."

Is this a precedent being set? I hope not!

Personally, I would not be at all surprised if its that muppet Hugh Grant.....

..he's been wanting his revenge against the press since Los Angeles!
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Message 1348065 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 13:28:52 UTC - in response to Message 1348049.  

& the precedent?
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Message 1348143 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 17:15:17 UTC - in response to Message 1348125.  

The debate has been agreed, and it is live now.

Late Edit - Well well, Labour thanking Tory, Tory thanking Labour, and Lib dems thanking everyone. Sorry Sirius, a grand day for politicians and just shows what Parliament can really do.


Yep, a grand day indeed, already going into the history books as "Muddled Monday" How imperiously grand!
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Message 1348154 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 17:44:46 UTC - in response to Message 1348149.  

The debate continues with recognition being given to nearly every British newspaper, including the Mirror Group, but significantly not the Mail nor the sun. I am enjoying every minute. You are so 1990's Sirius ....


Is that so, then please pray tell how all 3 parties are declaring victory? Especially when Del-boy called a halt to proceedings only for Nancy boy to go running to Millpede to spite Del-boy?

That's not governance but spoilt little brats! We need leaders that will govern, not P**ie's doing backroom deals!
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Message 1348465 - Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 13:35:14 UTC - in response to Message 1348437.  

Good post.

However, why do you regularily use the same old cliche?

Those that squeal the loudest probably have the most to lose or hide.



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Message 1348724 - Posted: 20 Mar 2013, 14:41:21 UTC - in response to Message 1348718.  

Think you need to take the advice below before you have a coronary....


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Message 1348731 - Posted: 20 Mar 2013, 15:18:49 UTC - in response to Message 1348713.  

What price professionalism now?

Budget on front page before Chancellor even speaks


Yep, what price professionalism? At least book publishers have editors & proofreaders (mistakes still slip through but not this often!)......

Budget - NI cut to boost jobs

"The change is being called the Employment Allowance, which the chancellor described as "a tax off jobs". To take advance of the allowance, firms will simply have to inform HM Revenue & Customs".

Shouldn't that read "Advantage"?
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Message 1348742 - Posted: 20 Mar 2013, 16:13:23 UTC - in response to Message 1348738.  

Sigh .... So somebody at the BBC website makes a typo, and that is all you can find comment upon about the Budget, that affects every person in the UK for the next 12 months? Any opinions upon :-

Good
    Corporation tax cut from 21% to 20% Tax cut for the rich
    Planned fuel duty rise cancelled could have knocked at least 2p off the cost
    Alcohol duty rises cancelled Bad News, should've gone up
    Scrapping the alcohol tax escalator Incorrect - check again
    Price of beer down by 1p a pint. Bad, should've gone up
    £10,000 income tax threshold a year early, in 2014 Depends on what hidden surprises in store later this year
    Small businesses get £2,000 allowance before paying employer NI Good
    An extension of shared equity housing schemes.
    £2.5bn of spending on infrastructure. Is that all you could afford Ossie? Charity begins at home - cut foreign aid!
    parents able to claim back up to £1,200 a year for each child - or 20% of childcare costs - from 2015. Bad - who from? The taxpayer?

Not so Good

    Growth in 2013 would be 0.6% - half the 1.2% he predicted four months ago.
    Revised forecast for UK's national debt to rise to 85% of GDP and not start coming down until 2017/18 - a year later than previously predicted.
    Unemployment climbing by 7,000 to 2.52 million between November and January
    UK loss of Triple A rating with credit agencies
    OBR says some of £11bn Whitehall underspend is "payments due to be made late in current year...delayed into 2013/14" - ie not real cuts







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Message 1349059 - Posted: 21 Mar 2013, 12:46:52 UTC - in response to Message 1349044.  

Have you accidently slipped out of that children's programme "Timeslip" by any chance?

You seem to have popped into the 21st century from the 1850's!

Budget more positive than what I say it is? Really? Then pray tell how "officials" are calling it a "Budget of Paradoxes"!
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Message 1349078 - Posted: 21 Mar 2013, 14:03:00 UTC - in response to Message 1349071.  

WOW! Lacklustre responses? Really?

Not a paradox, just typical press rhetoric by those that don't understand a balanced budget.


I really am seriously thinking of taking an FE course in economics, as I just don't have enough knowledge to comment upon these matters on my own, without quoting other peoples opinions. Is QE a good thing, should we have more of it? I don't know, and it irks me that I don't.


You sure about it being balanced? Absolutely certain? Quite sure in your own opinion that it is balanced?
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