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Message 1343370 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 5:47:44 UTC
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Tired of pushing retry, flushing and registering DNS or the Update button?
Use Windows Task Scheduler to perform your "Update" and "Seti Network Reset" functions.
Set Task Scheduler to call to your .bat files to perform a desired function. I set the Network Reset to occur every 5 minutes and "Update" happens once every hour. I stagger the scheduler start times to keep multiple triggers on multiple computers from happening at the same time.
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Message 1343458 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 15:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 1343370.  
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I use TinyTask. It's a simple mouse record/playback that can be configured in a few seconds. Only caveat is ensure the BOINC window is in the same place on playback. The recording can be saved. I just disable and enable network, let it sit for a minute and then stop the recording, choose 9999 reiterations and let it run. It will run once a minute and in a few hours all the downloads are usually done and I can turn it off.
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Message 1343459 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 15:29:15 UTC

Or read the adjacent Windows TCP settings thread.
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Message 1343461 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 15:35:01 UTC - in response to Message 1343459.  
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Or read the adjacent Windows TCP settings thread.


I know of the MTU issue but I'd rather not mess with TCP settings. I have complex networking things on the affected rig and I'd prefer not to break them. Also another rig with the same default MTU and same OS seems to download just fine for some reason.
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Message 1343467 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 15:49:56 UTC - in response to Message 1343461.  

Or read the adjacent Windows TCP settings thread.

I know of the MTU issue but I'd rather not mess with TCP settings. I have complex networking things on the affected rig and I'd prefer not to break them. Also another rig with the same default MTU and same OS seems to download just fine for some reason.

Read the thread - the whole thread.

It's gone beyond MTU, and into a discussion of RFC 1323, window scaling and timestamps. Timestamp enabling, or not, might well be the difference between your two rigs.
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Message 1343472 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 15:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 1343467.  
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Read the thread - the whole thread.

It's gone beyond MTU, and into a discussion of RFC 1323, window scaling and timestamps. Timestamp enabling, or not, might well be the difference between your two rigs.


OK... this would explain why MTU wasn't affecting it. I will give it a read (when not so busy!) and thanks. :^)
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Message 1343502 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 18:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 1343370.  

Tired of pushing retry, flushing and registering DNS or the Update button?
Use Windows Task Scheduler to perform your "Update" and "Seti Network Reset" functions.
Set Task Scheduler to call to your .bat files to perform a desired function. I set the Network Reset to occur every 5 minutes and "Update" happens once every hour. I stagger the scheduler start times to keep multiple triggers on multiple computers from happening at the same time.

I haven't needed to push any buttons in a few years. With the issues introduced in BOINC I automated the tasks retry and scheduler updates for my machines. At the moment I run a .bat every 2 hours to retry transfers, if there are any, & a schedule update every 12 hours. With the 100 task limit BOINC constantly preforms schedule updates between my automated requests. So it is just there for me to make sure machines are still running mostly.
Then, because BOINC gets confused & needs it. I also have a network disable/enable that occurs every 6 hours.

Which is just a one line, per host, command like this:
boinccmd --host HostName --passwd Password --set_network_mode never 30

If you are just doing the local machine.
boinccmd --set_network_mode never 30

That will disable network comms for 30 seconds and then return the network setting to whatever it was before issuing the command.

I also have commands that disable my network comms between 12:01AM & 4:00AM US EST.
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Message 1343567 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 21:04:10 UTC

I know when I looked at my 'transfers' the other other day it was down past the bottom of my 24" display....been like that for a while done....slowly trickle in. Running the stock programs with no mods.
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Message 1343625 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 4:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 1343459.  
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I tried tcpoptimizer and it really slowed things down. Had to return to default settings.

Seti Update.bat cd C:\Program Files\BOINC
boinccmd --project http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ update

Seti Network Reset.bat cd c:\program files\boinc
boinccmd --set_network_mode never 10
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Message 1343685 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 8:18:08 UTC - in response to Message 1343625.  
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Yes when I first tried TCPOptimizer I played with ECN Capability and man did it
slow the start of transfers down. Speedtest.net took several minutes just to ping three different sites (usually just 5 seconds) the actual ping was ok
just every packet was delayed.

Just had to make sure ECN was disabled not enabled (If set to default it might be Network adapter dependent) One of my systems is set to disabled and one is set to default both work ok.

Looked at ECN RFC and it requires a three stage connection setup for protocol TCP, as it needs to check every router between endpoints for ECN capability
That might explain part of the very painful slow setup time
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Message 1343718 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 11:26:50 UTC

Humm that's strange I have tried checking the ECN setting on 8 differnet machines with TCP Optimizer and they are all default to diabled or the default of the card is disabled. Will have to make a note in my post about that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explicit_Congestion_Notification

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