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Message 1343252 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 14:24:58 UTC

Like i have mentioned already.

hmmm

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Message 1343253 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 14:26:54 UTC - in response to Message 1343252.

Like i have mentioned already.

hmmm

Well, that happens if we don't see each others posts before we have finished posting :D
Better redundant information than no information.
But I might be annoyed enough to do a FAQ entry I can point to next time ::)
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Message 1343255 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 14:31:36 UTC

Thanks William. I didnt think it was anything to worry about, But i hadnt seen that error in awhile. Both my I7's have one each right now.
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Message 1343265 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 15:17:35 UTC - in response to Message 1343251.


the x41zc currently in public beta has to my knowledge completely abolished them.


Not quite yet, getting closer and closer though.
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Message 1343278 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 16:41:06 UTC
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Hi folks!
I chose to receive no more AP work a view days ago. Today I got a few new APs, which are about to mess up my downloads again. Any idea why?

EDIT: I should have kept my eyes open ... "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?" is still Yes

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Message 1343290 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 20:40:53 UTC - in response to Message 1343232.
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I suspect there are exactly three persons that know how the AP validator works (i.e. what parameters are checked with what error levels): Josh, Eric and Joe.

I know roughly what is checked on MB - number and type of signals and some scores attached to the individual signals. With MB any tasks that has more than 50% match to the canonical one will be valid. I would assume it works similarly for AP.

The number and type of signals found by those three closely related apps was the same, so something in the score must have been too different - beyond our ability to check, that is in the uploaded result file, not in stderr.

Why you are repeatedly coming up inconclusive against r1316 might need investigation.


I see. So no one else can see any reason either. r1316 is the most widely used version out there, it would stand to reason that version would show up most. The other versions aren't even close. You might want to check on some of those Inconclusive Hosts that are using r1316, some of them have a history. So, after over 2000 Valid results somehow this one, which is pretty close to the other Barts card in the Workunit, is deemed Invalid.
Interesting.

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Message 1343352 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 2:56:43 UTC

OK, I've had enough.

Can someone please tell me where I can get a copy of Boinc version 6.10.58?

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Message 1343354 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 3:28:05 UTC - in response to Message 1343352.

OK, I've had enough.

Can someone please tell me where I can get a copy of Boinc version 6.10.58?

Thanks.

You could DL any version here:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/
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Message 1343356 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 4:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 1343354.

OK, I've had enough.

Can someone please tell me where I can get a copy of Boinc version 6.10.58?

Thanks.

You could DL any version here:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/

But if you want the x64 version, the one in that download directory is broken. There are numerous regular posters around here who have a copy of the x64 version, including me (I got it from someone a few months ago myself). PM if interested.
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Message 1343413 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 9:46:21 UTC - in response to Message 1343243.

It is beginning to be a pain. I have 170 waiting on one machine. Then you have little incidents where three different hosts, using three different versions of the software, all arrive at the same general results yet the one using the most recent software is marked as 'Invalid'. Not very encouraging...

Someone care to explain why that was marked as Invalid?


The only thing I see it's the Boinc version.
You have .52 they have .28

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That is of no consequence to the validity of results.

Boinc only provides the infrastructure - what task is run when, what project to contact for tasks, for how much work to ask, etc. the science is all done by the respective applications. If something goes wrong there, the app is at fault not boinc. [the only exception that springs to mind being the problem that AP may not get boinc 'suspend' orders under some circumstances, that's something where the API is probably involved - that's the bit that handles communication between boinc and the apps]

Yeah, one would think it's like that... apparently it's not that simple. As you see, some versions of BOINC combined with some versions of nVidia drivers can cause issues even on CPU-only projects.
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Message 1343487 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 17:14:09 UTC

So this is really cool. I was looking through my tasks and looked at the two most-recent that I reported, and I was a _2 on both of them.. and _0 and _1 are the same for both. Two back-to-back APs with the same three wingmates.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1174283745
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1174283743

The statistics on that happening must be somewhere between "unlikely" and "remote," but it happened anyway.
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Message 1344285 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 0:56:26 UTC

DOH I made a post and there is a no more PANIC :) Oh no where's my towel... PANIC!!

LOL Couldn't help myself, haven't seen this thread quiet in a long time.

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Message 1344287 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 1:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 1343354.

That is what I am using, version 6.10.58. I have a copy
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Message 1344324 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 3:14:41 UTC

I'm still using Squid in Ubuntu for my Windows Downloads.
If it ain't broke...

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Message 1344452 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 8:45:32 UTC

With AP splitters off line and TCP Optimizer fix working we are in the SETI Paradise, ask for new WU and the DL are very fast, but criket still shows 100% of bandwidth utilization.
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Message 1344494 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 10:35:22 UTC - in response to Message 1344324.

I'm still using Squid in Ubuntu for my Windows Downloads.
If it ain't broke...

I did try the RFC1323 option in Windows and it seems to replicate what I had with using Squid as a proxy. Squid may be slightly better overall, though I am wary of having a single point of failure for BOINC transfers, so I did revert to direct connections once I confirmed the RFC1323 option works.
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Message 1344499 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 10:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 1344452.

With AP splitters off line and TCP Optimizer fix working we are in the SETI Paradise, ask for new WU and the DL are very fast, but criket still shows 100% of bandwidth utilization.

Not really all six machines showing a variation of:


18078 SETI@home 09/03/2013 10:35:13 Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA
18079 SETI@home 09/03/2013 10:35:19 Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
18080 SETI@home 09/03/2013 10:35:19 Project has no tasks available

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Message 1344500 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013, 11:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 1344499.

09/03/2013 10:58:35 | SETI@home | [sched_op] NVIDIA work request: 39636.61 seconds; 0.00 devices
09/03/2013 10:58:40 | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 6 new tasks

That's me back up to 100, then.

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Message 1344924 - Posted: 10 Mar 2013, 12:00:24 UTC

I like that, for the first time in months the Panic thread if quiet, i belive is due the TCP bug fix is working fine on all who use it, who no and have windoes hosts, must try. Tanks to the one who discovered/share that with us.
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