Religion in schools: All or none?

States can not do as they please. They can not ignore the constitution whether they take federal money or not.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

How about dissolving all government funds for education? Has anyone thought of that?

Duh!

Get your religion out of my gubmint and vice verse.

Of course, a sensible idea like that will never get any 'traction' since it pisses off everybody and the recipients of said idea are victims of 'gubmint' schools anyway.

lets not forget the Supremacy Rule/Law. The Federal Gov't rules will always supercede any state law

States can not do as they please. They can not ignore the constitution whether they take federal money or not.

lets not forget the Supremacy Rule/Law. The Federal Gov't rules will always supersede any state law

How about dissolving all government funds for education? Has anyone thought of that?

Duh!

Get your religion out of my gubmint and vice verse.

Of course, a sensible idea like that will never get any 'traction' since it pisses off everybody and the recipients of said idea are victims of 'gubmint' schools anyway.

Well.......here is a contradiction for ya.......
I am a Christian man that supports the recognition of his name and beliefs in this society.

However.....
I do have a problem with the efforts of my own Governor John Walker, who I happen to support in most everything else, to further the issuing of vouchers to send the kiddies off to private or parochial schools on my tax dollar.

As a portion of my property taxes every year, I am taxed for my school district.
To support the public school system in my back yard.
And now, I am being told that those funds can be siphoned off to support those who do not wish to believe in public schooling because they think their kids are above that??? I call bullshit.

I am taxed and have payed moneys to support the local public school system, not your little brats that you think you want better for. If you truly think that your kids are above that, go for it. But do so on your own dollar. NOT mine.

I pay taxes for ALL of the school district, not to be taken by those that believe they should have special privileges.

Otherwise, if you want to take it another step, there would have to be a checkbox on the tax form. 'Do you wish your tax dollars to go to...


A. Public Schooling available to all. Even if it may not be the ultimate.
B. Parochial schooling available to only the devout.
Ba. And if so which, religion would you desire to support?
C. Private schooling. Which means you don't give a rat's petoot what your child learns. Or any oversight.

EDIT...
And let me say that I damned well have a say in this, even though I have no offspring.
I have been a property owner since 1980, and have paid my taxes on such every single year since. Every year, I have to check off on what school district my taxes are going to. I don't believe it is right to take that money and redirect it to others who do not wish to participate in the public school system.

I'll bung my 2¢ worth in.

In the UK "Public Schools" are usually at the top of the educational tree, and are fee paying, in addition to some free scholarships. Here we are talking about Eton, Harrow, Rugby etc. The second tier are the fee paying Private schools, such as Marlborough College, Roedean, Woldingham etc. The rest of the national free schools open to the general public are Grammar schools, Secondary Moderns, and Comprehensives. There are Church run schools as well but they are usually patronised by religious adherents.

All pupils in the UK get a free education by law, and allocated upon ability. For those exceptional pupils, scholarships paid or free, are available at the Public Schools. But if the parents can afford private education for better than average pupils, to get a better than average education, then there are the private schools that have entrance exams.

Our taxes go towards the schools available to the general public, nowhere else.

I really don't understand that response, Es.

I really don't understand that response, Es.

He's saying he shouldn't have to pay for a system he never participated in. I was just surprised that he never used the education system.

As a portion of my property taxes every year, I am taxed for my school district.
To support the public school system in my back yard.
And now, I am being told that those funds can be siphoned off to support those who do not wish to believe in public schooling because they think their kids are above that???

I really don't understand that response, Es.

He's saying he shouldn't have to pay for a system he never participated in. I was just surprised that he never used the education system.

Mark was talking about the diversion of funds from the public district schools to parochial and private schools. He was not complaining about his taxes supporting the public schools.

He wrote

As a portion of my property taxes every year, I am taxed for my school district.
To support the public school system in my back yard.
And now, I am being told that those funds can be siphoned off to support those who do not wish to believe in public schooling because they think their kids are above that???

(My emphasis)

From his post it is safe to assume that Mark attended a public school and has no problem with his tax dollars being used to support the public school system. His problem is with those tax dollars being used for purposes other than the reason they are collected. i.e. To fund Private schools.

T.A.

It's all a question of degree isn't it. If I was asked would I agree to a proportion of my taxes going to fund an above average pupil going to a Private school if her parents could afford it, I would say no. If the pupil was exceptional and her parents couldn't afford it, then I think I would say yes.

It's all a question of degree isn't it. If I was asked would I agree to a proportion of my taxes going to fund an above average pupil going to a Private school if her parents could afford it, I would say no. If the pupil was exceptional and her parents couldn't afford it, then I think I would say yes.

It's all a question of degree isn't it. If I was asked would I agree to a proportion of my taxes going to fund an above average pupil going to a Private school if her parents could afford it, I would say no. If the pupil was exceptional and her parents couldn't afford it, then I think I would say yes.

It's all a question of degree isn't it. If I was asked would I agree to a proportion of my taxes going to fund an above average pupil going to a Private school if her parents could afford it, I would say no. If the pupil was exceptional and her parents couldn't afford it, then I think I would say yes.