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Message 1351753 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 11:04:45 UTC

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North Korea continues to search for new ways to issue threats - partly in an attempt by the regime to consolidate power at home, and partly in the hope that the US cancels its exercises as President Clinton did. As Pyongyang does so, the West calls their bluff and continues to carry out drills and B-52 flights over the peninsula.

With modern military radar and satellites the USA would know in seconds of any rocket launch. They have pretty sophisticated ground to air, ship to air, and air to air missile systems, guided and heat seeking. Some would get though yes, but the majority wouldn't. I don't know what warships are in the Sea of Japan, and the East China Sea, but I bet they are being added to as we speak.

It seems that this regime of Jim Mahjong in Pingpong town is fragile, seemingly confirmed by our man on the ground in China in another thread, and similar to Argentina. Both countries have leaders regularly issuing threats to bolster support at home. However, if the figure of 1 in 14 for the NK military is correct, that still leaves 23 million civilians at the risk of being dragged into a war with the resultant casualties, SK has over twice that in a country of almost the same size. Any hostilities is going to cost many lives.

I can't see the point of the USA continuing to wave a red rag with bomber flights. Wouldn't it simply be better to warn NK that any rocket launch at SK or the USA will be seen as an act of war, with immediate retaliation. Then stand back and let NK implode of its own volition?


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Message 1351787 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 13:35:54 UTC

Russia now entering the arena....

Russia fears NK Tensions slipping out of control

It still seems that no one has learnt anything from history....

...it still only takes one madman to kick off.......
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Message 1351795 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 14:27:41 UTC

North Korea is not thought to have the technology to strike the US mainland with either a nuclear weapon or a ballistic missile, but it is capable of targeting some US military bases in Asia with its mid-range missiles.

Look at this pic.



Just look at the rubbish on their chests. Military medals are usually awarded for service in conflicts. So how many "official" conflicts has North Korea had in its history? Just because you stay at HQ and make the tea for the Leader doesn't entitle you to a gong. Oh well, in their Walter Mitty land it obviously does. With a bunch of military advisors that tell him what he wants to hear, to save their jobs, is it any wonder we have the current situation?



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Message 1351797 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 14:33:31 UTC - in response to Message 1351795.

Well, There's the Korean Bronze Star for getting concessions from China....

...there's the Korean Silver Star for making the leader a cup of tea......

....& the Korean Gold Star fo getting concessions from the USA.
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Message 1351816 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 15:17:05 UTC

I was a young lad back when another US president said enough is enough and did the blockade around Cuba.

The US navy used to show ship deployments On its websites. Not a peep now. So who knows what ships are there or are heading there. My guess would be two carrier stike groups. One on each coast.

China needs to step up to the plate on this. They have propped up the little tinhorns over the years. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
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Message 1351845 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 16:48:04 UTC - in response to Message 1351816.

The US navy used to show ship deployments On its websites. Not a peep now.

Lose lips sink ships.

So who knows what ships are there or are heading there. My guess would be two carrier stike groups. One on each coast.

I just hope the friend I know who is a fire control officer on a guided missile destroyer, who a week ago was in Japan isn't called upon.

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Message 1351860 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 17:06:39 UTC

The MOD never comments upon it's military deployments either, but you can bet your sweet Bibby that we have a Nuclear sub on patrol in the South Atlantic 24/7 and have had since 1982. Russia also has its subs operational all over the world as indeed do the Americans. Surface fleets are rather harder to hide, and I imagine that most world powers always keep tabs on each others naval movements. NK will be aware of any USA naval build up which will probably also irritate them.

I just feel sorry for the NK people that have to live under the regime that they do. Perhaps they have never known any different, but perhaps it is time that they did. Hopefully without too many of them losing their lives to attain that.

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Message 1351881 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 17:51:14 UTC - in response to Message 1351795.

Just look at the rubbish on their chests. Military medals are usually awarded for service in conflicts. So how many "official" conflicts has North Korea had in its history? Just because you stay at HQ and make the tea for the Leader doesn't entitle you to a gong. Oh well, in their Walter Mitty land it obviously does. With a bunch of military advisors that tell him what he wants to hear, to save their jobs, is it any wonder we have the current situation

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Message 1351883 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 18:01:16 UTC - in response to Message 1351860.

I just feel sorry for the NK people that have to live under the regime that they do. Perhaps they have never known any different, but perhaps it is time that they did. Hopefully without too many of them losing their lives to attain that.

This is my thought too. Like some other places it will take a couple of generations for change to sink in.
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Message 1351886 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 18:06:41 UTC - in response to Message 1351795.

Look at this pic.



Just look at the rubbish on their chests. Military medals are usually awarded for service in conflicts. So how many "official" conflicts has North Korea had in its history?

Spoken like some one who has served.
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Message 1351899 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 19:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 1351886.

Look at this pic.



Just look at the rubbish on their chests. Military medals are usually awarded for service in conflicts. So how many "official" conflicts has North Korea had in its history?

Spoken like some one who has served.


I served in the USAF for 8 years. My DD214 lists 4 medals I earned. Good conduct with bronze oak leaf, National Defense, Air Force Longevity ( for reenlisting ) And Small Arms Expert.
Now my daughter enlisted in 96 and after leaving boot camp had more awards then I did. However after serving in Iraq I dont begrudge her them at all.


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Message 1351922 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 19:40:38 UTC

Spoken like some one who has served.

No, I never have. I just missed Conscription/call up in the UK by 18 months. Yes, of course I would have stepped up to the plate and done my National Service, but I wouldn't have liked it, and I'm glad I didn't have to, I'd have probably ended up in Colchester. If god forbid, my country ever goes to war, I can do my bit in other ways. I am about to get training in Civil Defence procedures as part of a local Emergency Response Team.

BUT, I admire and respect all those that did serve in the military, and those who voluntarily serve their country today. And the way that returning troops from duty are treated in many cases is nothing less than scandalous. I really hope that NK doesn't kick off. We have already heard from a Setizen in China giving us the views of the real people, are there any NK or SK setizens that can, or are able to comment?

@James - respect to your daughter.

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Message 1351999 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 1:01:33 UTC

North Korea has always gives the human one kind of mystical, closed impression. However, the North Korean leader Kim Jeong-eun seems to digital technology products fresh does not resist. In previous reports, we see Kim Jeong-eun's mobile phone, mouse, and in the most recent exposure, Kim Jeong-eun's office computer also appeared.

Although not to take positive, but the media have pointed out, in a corner of the desk is placed 2011 apple iMac machine, but still in use a wired keyboard and mouse.

Message 1352004 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 1:18:50 UTC

already heard from a Setizen in China giving us the views of the real people


1 Person of 1.3 Billion. Yep, Real Views Of The Real People.

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Message 1352005 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 1:23:53 UTC - in response to Message 1352004.

Okay, I admit that I am a person can not represent all Chinese, but my opinion is absolutely and most people view the same. Nobody wants war, China is the same.

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Message 1352014 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 2:00:27 UTC

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Message 1352048 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 7:13:05 UTC - in response to Message 1352014.


North Korea says it's in "state of war" with South Korea


SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea said Saturday it had entered "a state of war" with South Korea in its latest threat aimed at the United States and its ally after two American B-2 bombers flew a training mission in the region.

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Message 1352062 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 9:22:37 UTC

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A North Korean statement released on Saturday said: "From this time on, the North-South relations will be entering the state of war and all issues raised between the North and the South will be handled accordingly.

"The long-standing situation of the Korean peninsula being neither at peace nor at war is finally over."

The question is just how far will they go in brinkmanship?

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Message 1352085 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 11:48:37 UTC

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More threats

They are certainly pushing it .....

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