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Message 1356690 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 0:48:02 UTC - in response to Message 1356671.

I want China and the US to be on the same page, and that can only happen through dialog.


NEWS FLASH: It is 2013, The 21st Century, and Diplomats Do Not LIE Face To Face Anymore! WE ARE CIVILIZED NOW.

Bound For It.

And we weren't civilized a week ago?.....

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Message 1356693 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 0:53:48 UTC

Latest on BBC News saying the US and China will work together.
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Message 1356702 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 1:41:06 UTC - in response to Message 1355770.
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I'm probably going to get blasted for this in one way or another but......

I think we've gone as far as we can as individual nations. Its time for nationhood to end.

We're all living on this single planet & its time we all worked together to pool resources to move onwards & upwards.

Population too heavy? Then work hard on technology & the sciences, get back into space in a big way & start colonising.....

...before its all too late....

...FOR EVERYONE!

It will take a bigger international threat than lil' ole N. Korea to bring all nations under one government.

The only problem is that threat would have to be from an entity outside our planet and if and when that threat appears we are all toast.
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Message 1356713 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 3:08:10 UTC

Panorama will be interesting to watch later this evening.....

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Message 1356797 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 9:23:39 UTC - in response to Message 1356713.

Panorama will be interesting to watch later this evening.....

Inside North Korea

Tomorrow actually

Panorama: North Korea Undercover can be seen on BBC One at 20:30 BST on Monday.

If it goes ahead

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22140716
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Message 1356810 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 10:25:37 UTC

The BBC were quite wrong to "use" the LSE in that way and possibly put innocent students at risk, and quite rightly should be publicly rebuked, and if necessary fined. But the resulting programme is still valid nevertheless, and given the current tensions in the Korean peninsular, it should be aired.

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Message 1356831 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 13:52:30 UTC - in response to Message 1356810.

Gordon Bennett, where's those pills :)

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Message 1356847 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 15:43:27 UTC - in response to Message 1356810.

The BBC were quite wrong to "use" the LSE in that way and possibly put innocent students at risk, and quite rightly should be publicly rebuked, and if necessary fined. But the resulting programme is still valid nevertheless, and given the current tensions in the Korean peninsular, it should be aired.

All sounds like some extremely junior level paper pusher said okay and the bosses didn't find out until later.

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Message 1356959 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 21:47:13 UTC
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I could yet be proved wrong, but I believe that Kim has played the game better than daddy ever did.

Kim has managed to scare the crap out of the entire world. Think about it. How many millions if not billions of dollars have the allies spent scrambling to defend all of southeast Asia from a nuclear attack? All he had to do was shoot his mouth off while holding a birthday party for his grandfather. Hell, he even held a marathon race. Not too shabby for the rookie.

Now, the big question is whether the kid is smart enough to see that enough is enough.
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Message 1356972 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 22:43:20 UTC - in response to Message 1356959.

That's a very dangerous game to play. Play it too much & the "Big Boys" will soon get fed up of any & all "tinpot" nations holding the world to ransom & someone's finger will slip....
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Message 1357115 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 8:03:36 UTC
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Now, the big question is whether the kid is smart enough to see that enough is enough.

Good question. If he really intends to launch this damn missile, test or whatever, it is likely to be today. His people have been led to expect it, I wonder how he will get around it if he doesn't do it. It's 5pm in NK, still time yet.

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Message 1357365 - Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 23:36:14 UTC - in response to Message 1357279.

Now this after the Boston Bombing :-( One last threat.


North Korea threatens to strike without warning

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Message 1357479 - Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 9:38:46 UTC

Apparently protesters in South Korea's capital, Seoul, burned portraits of Kim Jong-un, his father Kim Jong-il, and grandfather Kim Il-sung on Monday in the streets.

So the NK response was not unexpected.

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Message 1357547 - Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 14:26:28 UTC

He must have a cyberlink to the outside world. Maye he just thought launching a missle might not be a good idea.
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Message 1357775 - Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 13:31:19 UTC - in response to Message 1356689.

Message 1356689 - Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 0:47:56 UTC

War is not a good option.


Oh Yes It Is. WWII Made The Good 'Ole USA The Most Powerful and Richest Country In The World.

When The Richie Riches and Politicians(Same People) do The Calcs, they Slobber and Drool over Their Cigars while Discussing Our Fate.

The World Is Still In That 20th Century State Of Mind.

No?

Yep.

Bound For It.



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Message 1357878 - Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 20:33:39 UTC - in response to Message 1357365.

Now this after the Boston Bombing :-( One last threat.


North Korea threatens to strike without warning


The North Korean threats are now history, they will soon be towing the line.


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Message 1357963 - Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 6:37:28 UTC

NK just wants more food for free...
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Message 1357974 - Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 7:25:44 UTC

Don't want much do they.....

NK lists terms for talks

Here's one for you Kim Pong 2, sign a peace treaty ending the 1950-54 Korean War, then you can talk.
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Message 1357994 - Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 8:28:51 UTC

The North Korean threats are now history,

Don't be tempted to jump to hasty conclusions. Jim Mahjong couldn't have gone any further without actually firing the damn rocket, and as it is believed to be untested it could have been a spectacular public failure, or a costly mistake if it malfunctioned and crashed in Japan. It was simple brinkmanship of the highest order, but clearly neither Japan or the USA were prepared to be complacent about it.

Don't want much do they.....


In any negotiations you always initially ask for more than you hope to get, it's no different to buying and selling a car. Many years ago I went on a management Negotiating Skills training course and we were taught to have 3 levels in our back pockets before any talks.
    1. What we would like to get
    2. What we realistically expect to get
    3. Our bottom line if really pushed.

Those principles probably still hold true today, just depends how quickly they want a settlement. Jim has to be seen to be the big man to his people to shore up his standing as a young and untested leader, so of course he will initially demand the earth.

I am just grateful that it seems that a war has been averted at the last minute. Ok the USA could have wiped out thier military bases and command posts without any trouble, and probably flattened major buildings in Pingpong town, but there would have been many civilian casualties and a humanitarian crisis of some proportions.


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