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Message 1337342 - Posted: 12 Feb 2013, 5:48:11 UTC


North Korea appears to conduct 3rd nuclear test, officials and experts say


North Korea appeared to have conducted its third underground nuclear bomb test Tuesday, officials and experts said, as U.S. seismologists reported activity centered near the site of the secretive regime's two previous nuclear tests.

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Message 1337343 - Posted: 12 Feb 2013, 5:49:30 UTC - in response to Message 1337342.  

SOUTH KOREA CONFIRMS THAT NORTH KOREA HAS CONDUCTED NUCLEAR TEST, AP REPORTS
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Message 1343257 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 14:41:12 UTC

http://news.yahoo.com/nkorea-vows-cancel-korean-war-cease-fire-115128092.html
NKorea vows to cancel Korean War cease-fire

By FOSTER KLUG and YOUKYUNG LEE | Associated Press

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea vowed Tuesday to cancel the 1953 cease-fire that ended the Korean War, citing a U.S.-led push for punishing U.N. sanctions over its recent nuclear test and ongoing U.S.-South Korean joint military drills.

Without elaborating, the Korean People's Army Supreme Command warned of "surgical strikes" meant to unify the divided Korean Peninsula and of an indigenous, "precision nuclear striking tool." The statement came amid reports that Washington and North Korean ally Beijing have approved a draft of a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for sanctions in response to North Korea's Feb. 12 nuclear test. The draft is expected to be circulated at the U.N. this week.

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Message 1343263 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 15:16:04 UTC

It seems China is finally getting worried about N. Korea. Why else would they agree with sanctions. Its about time they stopped aiding and abetting.

Is it just empty threats that N.Korea is saying? Who knows. But S.Korea should go on high alert mobilize the entire miltary.

If the North did invade they would find a much better army than they did in 1950. Ive talked with a few vets of Viet Nam and Iraq who said that the ROK troops were feared by the opposing forces.




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Message 1343321 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013, 22:51:18 UTC - in response to Message 1343263.  

It seems China is finally getting worried about N. Korea. Why else would they agree with sanctions. Its about time they stopped aiding and abetting.

Is it just empty threats that N.Korea is saying? Who knows. But S.Korea should go on high alert mobilize the entire miltary.

If the North did invade they would find a much better army than they did in 1950. Ive talked with a few vets of Viet Nam and Iraq who said that the ROK troops were feared by the opposing forces.


They've had time and reason. I wouldn't doubt they're fearsome.
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Message 1343334 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 0:14:13 UTC

Just wonder if NK actually does abrogate the cease fire if this time they have a two front war.

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Message 1343439 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 13:51:57 UTC - in response to Message 1343334.  

Just wonder if NK actually does abrogate the cease fire if this time they have a two front war.


You mean a 100,000 Chinese troops crosssing the Yalu river again?
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Message 1343452 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 14:38:14 UTC - in response to Message 1343439.  

Just wonder if NK actually does abrogate the cease fire if this time they have a two front war.


You mean a 100,000 Chinese troops crosssing the Yalu river again?

Yep, only this time the Chinese might be carrying the UN flag.

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Message 1343463 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 15:45:02 UTC - in response to Message 1343452.  

Just wonder if NK actually does abrogate the cease fire if this time they have a two front war.


You mean a 100,000 Chinese troops crosssing the Yalu river again?

Yep, only this time the Chinese might be carrying the UN flag.



...which in that respect will be good. However, if it happens that way, the door will be opened wide for China to enter the fold so to speak - Anyone want to start up a Mandarin/Cantonese language class?
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Message 1343480 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 16:54:34 UTC - in response to Message 1343463.  

Just wonder if NK actually does abrogate the cease fire if this time they have a two front war.


You mean a 100,000 Chinese troops crosssing the Yalu river again?

Yep, only this time the Chinese might be carrying the UN flag.



...which in that respect will be good. However, if it happens that way, the door will be opened wide for China to enter the fold so to speak - Anyone want to start up a Mandarin/Cantonese language class?


One way or the other China will enter the world. You have to remember that most of China's dealings with other countrys in the past few centuries has not been what China would call pleasent.

Back in 75 I think when Viet Nam started to act a little spunky China sent in an army to tell them to cool it. Im really suprised they have put up with N. Koreas wayward ways for so long until now. I wonder what the trigger was?
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Message 1343514 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 18:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 1343480.  

Just wonder if NK actually does abrogate the cease fire if this time they have a two front war.


You mean a 100,000 Chinese troops crosssing the Yalu river again?

Yep, only this time the Chinese might be carrying the UN flag.



...which in that respect will be good. However, if it happens that way, the door will be opened wide for China to enter the fold so to speak - Anyone want to start up a Mandarin/Cantonese language class?


One way or the other China will enter the world. You have to remember that most of China's dealings with other countrys in the past few centuries has not been what China would call pleasent.

Back in 75 I think when Viet Nam started to act a little spunky China sent in an army to tell them to cool it. Im really suprised they have put up with N. Koreas wayward ways for so long until now. I wonder what the trigger was?

Perhaps they are worried about some crazy fool having territorial aspirations north of the Yalu River?

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Message 1343552 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013, 19:53:10 UTC - in response to Message 1343408.  

Is it just empty threats that N.Korea is saying? Who knows.

Iraq boasted it had WMD, it was decided to play safe and not to take a chance, in case it had. The same view will likely be taken against NK.


But is there a difference here?
I'd say, yes.
It's been proven they're doing nuclear testing.
The item that's been the butt of jokes has been the delivery system-their missile technology. I've heard no such joking of their nuclear tests.
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Message 1343756 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 16:53:09 UTC

I got home this morning and low and behold N. Kores says it will nuke the US if Un sanctions are passed.

And here I was hoping that the son was not a whack job like his father. And the white house states its just rehtorical blathering. Well lets hope so.

I would take the threat damn well serious.


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Message 1343790 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 19:11:36 UTC - in response to Message 1343756.  

I would take the threat damn well serious.

First strike serious?

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Message 1343814 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 20:15:23 UTC - in response to Message 1343790.  

I would take the threat damn well serious.

First strike serious?



We'll let you know after the 1st one hits.....
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Message 1343819 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 20:26:17 UTC

If we don't take it out in the air...Total Annihilation and most likely WW III.

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Message 1343901 - Posted: 7 Mar 2013, 23:52:29 UTC

Perhaps Obama should say that the US received the latest request from NK for glassification and that the request is being studied for rapid implementation.

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Message 1343918 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 1:22:00 UTC - in response to Message 1343901.  

Perhaps Obama should say that the US received the latest request from NK for glassification and that the request is being studied for rapid implementation.


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Message 1343969 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 5:08:06 UTC
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I think you will find that such sabre rattling is mainly for internal consumption. NK just does not have the resources to launch a mass strike against the US and they'd be fully aware of what would happen if they lobbed only one or two missiles at the US.

To attempt such an act would be like the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbour with only a couple of Tiger Moths.

It would be interesting to know what discussions are going on between the US and China atm. While China and NK are nominally allies, there is no way China would want the crazies starting a blue that would severely mess up their part of the world. I think you would find, if it came to the crunch, China would move against NK before the US did as they have a lot more to lose.

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Message 1343977 - Posted: 8 Mar 2013, 5:31:11 UTC

Lets hope it is sabre rattling. The latest from the BBC.

North Korea ends peace pacts with South

North Korea says it is scrapping all non-aggression pacts with South Korea, closing its hotline with Seoul and shutting their shared border point.
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