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Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
I dunno kids...... Mark, this is the current Girl Scout pledge and law. On my honor, I will try: To serve God and my country, To help people at all times, And to live by the Girl Scout Law. The Girl Scout Law I will do my best to be honest and fair, friendly and helpful, considerate and caring, courageous and strong, and responsible for what I say and do, and to respect myself and others, respect authority, use resources wisely, make the world a better place, and be a sister to every Girl Scout. Except for the God part, I like the whole darn thing!!! If this is what Girl Scouts currently stand for, I'm pretty much for it. Just needs some minor "tweaking" as far as I'm concerned. |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Angela....... Mark, you and I FREQUENTLY stand on opposite sides. It is my pinko-liberal bias towards TOLERANCE that helps me count you daily as one of my friends. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I dunno kids...... And such 'tweaking' would involve removing God and what he stands for? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
Many public schools and such will not host them because they are a "religious organization" even though they are multi religious. This is an effect of court rulings against public funds being spent on religious organizations. The troop I grew up with was kicked out of the public schools and is now in a church because of this. Cub Scouts (which is where I am a leader currently) have no sexual orientation as they are much too young. However, the adults (parents and leaders) do. There have been cases where leaders and older boys have been ejected from the Boy Scouts over their sexual orientation. BOINC WIKI |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
And such 'tweaking' would involve removing God and what he stands for? I believe that what a God SHOULD stand for is very well represented in that Girl Scout law. I would remove the part about serving God, but keep in all those other lovely attributes. Honesty, fairness, friendliness, helpfulness, consideration, caring, courage, strength, responsibility, self-respect, respect for others, respect for authority, the wise use of resources, striving to make the world a better place and a sense of sisterhood are not the exclusive domain of religion, my friend. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
And you have a problem with that? I am sorry, but the majority of people are 'normal' hetero men and women, who just might have a problem with having somebody who is gay trying to teach their children anything about ideals. And let me get this straight (no pun intended)..... I hate nobody based on their sexual preferences. I know some gays......and although I would not go out of my way to be friends with them, I would not go out of my way to kick them either. You know I have posted about a past fleeting relationship with Joan Jett. I know who she is and what she is. Her inner self and what she feels never stopped me from falling head over heals in love with her at first kiss. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
And such 'tweaking' would involve removing God and what he stands for? Given, Angela. I just happen to be old school, and believe that serving God should be part of it. I have done far too little of it myself over the years. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
I am sorry, but the majority of people are 'normal' hetero men and women, who just might have a problem with having somebody who is gay trying to teach their children anything about ideals. I think that people who categorically think that people who are gay have nothing to teach are ultimately hurting themselves and their children. |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Cub Scouts (which is where I am a leader currently) have no sexual orientation as they are much too young. However, the adults (parents and leaders) do. There have been cases where leaders and older boys have been ejected from the Boy Scouts over their sexual orientation. Yes, I know. Tim Curran was one of my neighbors when I was a teenager growing up in Oakland, CA. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
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Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I believe Tom Lehrer said it best... LOL....Angela. You know I and Lehrer go waaaaaaaaaaay back. You opened this door, I merely walked through it. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Uhh, and if memory serves, you kids once jerked my post of this Lehrer song.....don't recall just why. The Vatican Rag..... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
I have no problem with someone that is not heterosexual teaching my children. I do have a problem with kicking people out of an organization based on this. Yes, the majority of adults are heterosexual, however, there is no reason to be afraid of non-heterosexuals. Pedophiles are a different story, and they should be ejected from any position where there is any contact with children. If detected after they act on this, they should be jailed. However, please note that gay != pedophile. BOINC WIKI |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Some do equate the two....... I am not one of them however. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Well folks, we are getting quite a way away from the thread title which is Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe. +100 |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well folks, we are getting quite a way away from the thread title which is Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe. That would be discriminating against the GCA. (Gay Coons of America). ROLF. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Well folks, we are getting quite a way away from the thread title which is Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe. I have always maintained that nothing is "off topic" in the Critter Cafe, however if participants and/or silent readers feel this section of the thread is better moved to Politics, then I certainly would not have a problem with a moderator moving things. I do feel the discussion has been largely pleasant and civil so far. The Cafe is supposed to be a place where you might discuss things over a cup of coffee. Sometimes that coffee break might include a discussion of current events, right? If things start getting out of hand, then a move to Politics would be in order, but I think things are ok right here for now... |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Oh Bernie! I just saw your post. Ok. I will red-x things and ask a moderator to cut and paste this over in Politics. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well folks, we are getting quite a way away from the thread title which is Raccoon Update XVI - All Are Welcome In the Critter Cafe. There have been no personal attacks. Just interchange of thoughts that may not conicide, but I have no problems with that. Hope some do not find my views too troubling to deal with. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
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