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Message 1336123 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 10:16:54 UTC

I found something out and I'm really curious if someone can explain this...
Ok, here we go...


Abraham Lincoln was chosen in congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was chosen in congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was chosen President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was chosen President in 1960.

Both wives lost children while living in the White House

Both presidents were shot on a Friday and both presidents were shot in the head.

Now it's getting really strange...

Lincoln's secretary was called Kennedy
Kennedy"s secretary was called Lincoln

Both were killed by someone from a southern state.


Both presidents were followed by a southern man, called Johnson


Andrew Johnson, who followed Lincoln was born in 1808.

Lyndon Johnson, who followed Kennedy was born in in 1908.


John Wilkes Booth, who killed Lincoln was born in 1839.

Lee Harvey Oswald, who killed Kennedy was born in 1939.

Both their names contain 15 letters


Lincoln was killed in a theater called "Ford"

Kennedy was killed in a car of the brand Lincoln, made by "Ford"


When Lincoln was murdered, his killer ran to a supermarket to hide.
Kennedy was killed from a supermarket and his murderer ran to a theater to hide.

Booth and Oswald both got killed before their trial

1 week before he got killed, Lincoln was in Monroe, in the state of Maryland
1 week before he got killed, Kennedy was with Marilyn Monroe...

Just a coincidence or...?





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Message 1336141 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 10:45:39 UTC - in response to Message 1336123.

And if it was not LHO who killed JFK ? :p
Thanks Julie for these strange intersections of American History...
So funny ! :)
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Message 1336142 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 10:46:22 UTC - in response to Message 1336123.

"Kennedy was killed in a car of the brand Lincoln, made by "Ford"


When Lincoln was murdered, his killer ran to a supermarket to hide.
Kennedy was killed from a supermarket and his murderer ran to a theater to hide"

I am pretty sure (not positive) That Kennedy was killed in a convertible Cadillac, before Chevrolet and then GM "merged" with the company. And wasn't it
a Library where Lee Harvey Oswald shot from?

Furthermore the "super-market" began in the late 50's-early 60's. The inventories changed a bit to handle some more than just Groceries.

Sonny & Cher's song And the beat goes on includes the lyric "The grocery store's a super mart uh huh"

This seems to match the rapid spread of these, although the first market to be created of this type seems to go back to the 1930's. Still well after Abraham Lincoln.

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So it seems someone has plenty of time to make some interesting observations/connections, they have not had time to fact check them.

I suggest they keep their day job ;)


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Message 1336145 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 10:52:27 UTC
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I had to translate this from Dutch and I guess my translation was erroneous
It says 'warenhuis" in Dutch. I looked it up and found bazaar or department store'

The big blue Lincoln had reached Dealey Plaza. SS 100X passed the School Book Depository and continued down Elm St. The car came abreast of the exit sign for the Stemmons Freeway, and seconds later would be parallel to the 4-foot concrete pedestal of the Bryant-Cockrell monument colonnade. . .


Oswald shot Kennedy from the 6th floor of a School Book Depository Building.
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Message 1336157 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 11:31:34 UTC

Here's what you get, folding a 20 dollar bill:


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Message 1336180 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 13:47:29 UTC

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Message 1336187 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 14:37:24 UTC - in response to Message 1336145.

I had to translate this from Dutch and I guess my translation was erroneous
It says 'warenhuis" in Dutch. I looked it up and found bazaar or department store'
The big blue Lincoln had reached Dealey Plaza. SS 100X passed the School Book Depository and continued down Elm St. The car came abreast of the exit sign for the Stemmons Freeway, and seconds later would be parallel to the 4-foot concrete pedestal of the Bryant-Cockrell monument colonnade. . .


Oswald shot Kennedy from the 6th floor of a School Book Depository Building.

It may have been mis-translated from English to Dutch in the first place. The school book depository was a warehouse.
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Message 1336203 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 15:06:49 UTC - in response to Message 1336187.

I had to translate this from Dutch and I guess my translation was erroneous
It says 'warenhuis" in Dutch. I looked it up and found bazaar or department store'

The big blue Lincoln had reached Dealey Plaza. SS 100X passed the School Book Depository and continued down Elm St. The car came abreast of the exit sign for the Stemmons Freeway, and seconds later would be parallel to the 4-foot concrete pedestal of the Bryant-Cockrell monument colonnade. . .

Oswald shot Kennedy from the 6th floor of a School Book Depository Building.

It may have been mis-translated from English to Dutch in the first place. The school book depository was a warehouse.

Correct. Odd that Julie's translation source didn't offer the obvious "warehouse" for "warenhuis."

But the car was definitely a Lincoln. After that incident, it was extensively remodeled into a hard top and stayed in the Presidential limo fleet long enough to carry Carter.

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Message 1336222 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 16:08:37 UTC

For what it's worth......
Stan Freburg had it nailed years ago.

Take an Indian to lunch.......

Don't care if it's politically correct this week.
Or not. This is real humour, with all nuts busted.

There was a time when we could laugh at ourselves without looking over our shoulder, folks.



'We know everyone cannot be, as politically correct as we.......'

Take an Indian, not just a wooden Indian, I mean, take an Indian.......to lunch.
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Message 1336226 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 16:15:56 UTC

Then there's the Music History of the USA, with someone being taken away, to the Funny Farm....
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Message 1336228 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 16:18:37 UTC - in response to Message 1336226.

Then there's the Music History of the USA, with someone being taken away, to the Funny Farm....

Yeah, funny, Vic, as you always are.

Verrry funny.
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Message 1336230 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 16:23:42 UTC - in response to Message 1336157.

Here's what you get, folding a 20 dollar bill:



It's a conspiracy!
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Message 1336242 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 16:45:16 UTC - in response to Message 1336230.

Here's what you get, folding a 20 dollar bill:



It's a conspiracy!

No, the death of JFK was a conspiracy.......and a very detailed and well laid out one, too.
I'll give you this much.......they got away with it.......
Watch the grassy knowl.........it it NOT a bunch of malarky.
From there came the truly fatal shot.

You don't wish to hear that, do you?

Ok....I have spent more hours researching and watching more information that the damned Warren commission farce ever did.

My belief? My true belief? It was a CIA hit orchestrated by none other than......
Oh, you guessed it......the next in line. LB freaking J. And all his cronies that stood to profit from it.
You sift all the information available, and of course, most of it has been tainted. But if you sift through all the rubble and get down to the bricks.
LBJ had Kennedy assassinated. Period. LHO had nothing to do with it.....he freaking missed.......yeah, he missed. He hit the damned street standard above the processional. He might have tried, but for all his CIA programmed intelligence, he MISSED, folks. The shot came from the grassy knowl.

WHY do you thing they were so hasty in occluding the trail of eveidence?

WHY do you think this was just a nutjob doing his thingy?

And freaking WHY does none of you believe me?
I just don't get your acceptance of what history has led you to believe.

I simply do not. You are all what the damned Warren commission wanted.

And you have all done a wonderful job of supporting them since.




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Message 1336245 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 16:50:29 UTC - in response to Message 1336242.

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It's a conspiracy!

No, the death of JFK was a conspiracy.......and a very detailed and well laid out one, too.
I'll give you this much.......they got away with it.......
Watch the grassy knowl.........it it NOT a bunch of malarky.
From there came the truly fatal shot.

You don't wish to hear that, do you?

Ok....I have spent more hours researching and watching more information that the damned Warren commission farce ever did.

My belief? My true belief? It was a CIA hit orchestrated by none other than......
Oh, you guessed it......the next in line. LB freaking J. And all his cronies that stood to profit from it.
You sift all the information available, and of course, most of it has been tainted. But if you sift through all the rubble and get down to the bricks.
LBJ had Kennedy assassinated. Period. LHO had nothing to do with it.....he freaking missed.......yeah, he missed. He hit the damned street standard above the processional. He might have tried, but for all his CIA programmed intelligence, he MISSED, folks. The shot came from the grassy knowl.

WHY do you thing they were so hasty in occluding the trail of eveidence?

WHY do you think this was just a nutjob doing his thingy?

And freaking WHY does none of you believe me?
I just don't get your acceptance of what history has led you to believe.

I simply do not. You are all what the damned Warren commission wanted.

And you have all done a wonderful job of supporting them since.




And I doubt that We'll know any of the details, as anyone that was involved back then is either very old and possibly senile or has alzheimer's or is deceased.... Just one of those unsolved mystery's....
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Message 1336246 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 16:55:16 UTC

And I told you, I have knowledge of some things I simply should not know.
Things I do not really wish to know.

I think it was soft spirit that joked at me some time ago and said someting along the lines of.......if you post what you know to the world, they cannot kill you, can they?

Oh yes, they can......just to prove they have the ability and to further stifle the truth.

I don't like it. It is more a burden than a blessing.

My cross to bear, as it were.

If any of you has the time to sift through the overbearing weight of evidence surrounding JFK, and truly wishes to make some informed decisions, you shall come to the same conclusions I have.
Of this, I have no doubt at all.
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Message 1336251 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 17:06:07 UTC - in response to Message 1336245.




Just one of those unsolved mystery's....

Victor, don't be an ass..........
YOU, of all people have had the time on your hands to find all the documents I am speaking of.
Unsolved, my ass.

You, of all people. There is no wonder some do not give a word you say one iota of consideration. I could site hundreds, Victor.
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Message 1336254 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 17:07:48 UTC - in response to Message 1336242.

No, the death of JFK was a conspiracy.......and a very detailed and well laid out one, too.
I'll give you this much.......they got away with it.......
Watch the grassy knoll.........it it NOT a bunch of malarky.
From there came the truly fatal shot.

You don't wish to hear that, do you?

Ok....I have spent more hours researching and watching more information that the damned Warren commission farce ever did.

My belief? My true belief? It was a CIA hit orchestrated by none other than......
Oh, you guessed it......the next in line. LB freaking J. And all his cronies that stood to profit from it.
You sift all the information available, and of course, most of it has been tainted. But if you sift through all the rubble and get down to the bricks.
LBJ had Kennedy assassinated. Period. LHO had nothing to do with it.....he freaking missed.......yeah, he missed. He hit the damned street standard above the processional. He might have tried, but for all his CIA programmed intelligence, he MISSED, folks. The shot came from the grassy knoll.

No doubt in my mind that the Warren Commission was a cover-up for a coup-de-etat. But I was a child when it happened, and after 50 years, it's too late to bring any of the perpetrators to justice. God's already dealt with most, if not all of them. I'm more comcerned with what our government is trying to do to us today than what LBJ and Co did 50 years ago.
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Message 1336263 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 17:23:17 UTC - in response to Message 1336254.

No, the death of JFK was a conspiracy.......and a very detailed and well laid out one, too.
I'll give you this much.......they got away with it.......
Watch the grassy knoll.........it it NOT a bunch of malarky.
From there came the truly fatal shot.

You don't wish to hear that, do you?

Ok....I have spent more hours researching and watching more information that the damned Warren commission farce ever did.

My belief? My true belief? It was a CIA hit orchestrated by none other than......
Oh, you guessed it......the next in line. LB freaking J. And all his cronies that stood to profit from it.
You sift all the information available, and of course, most of it has been tainted. But if you sift through all the rubble and get down to the bricks.
LBJ had Kennedy assassinated. Period. LHO had nothing to do with it.....he freaking missed.......yeah, he missed. He hit the damned street standard above the processional. He might have tried, but for all his CIA programmed intelligence, he MISSED, folks. The shot came from the grassy knoll.

No doubt in my mind that the Warren Commission was a cover-up for a coup-de-etat. But I was a child when it happened, and after 50 years, it's too late to bring any of the perpetrators to justice. God's already dealt with most, if not all of them. I'm more comcerned with what our government is trying to do to us today than what LBJ and Co did 50 years ago.


Donald, how old are you anyway? I am 56. I don't have to apologize for being a kid when JFK was done in. I don't. My life has gone from then until now, and I happen to know that as one of the defining moments in my young life.
Yes, we all know now what happened, and I have always stated that, if I was given the gift of time travel, that would be the one moment in time I would give my life to research even further.

LIke I said, LHO missed. There is physical evidence now that says he missed.
He hit the freaking street sign. They, years later, were able to do an analysis.........and they actually found bullet fragments from the sign, years later. The same signpost was still there. It had not been changed from that day.

LHO did NOT kill Kennedy. LBJ did.

As to justice, you are correct, most involved have since been dealt with by God above. I may be one of the few left on this earth that gives a shit about that day, or obsesses about it anymore.

I always shall unless somebody comes forth.......and that ain't likely in my lifetime.

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Message 1336328 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 20:59:11 UTC

And besides, if I were not here to bring these obvious truths here, who would?
Some right wing nutcase without a single fact under their belts?
LOL.

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Message 1336333 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 21:04:32 UTC - in response to Message 1336328.

And besides, if I were not here to bring these obvious truths here, who would?
Some right wing nutcase without a single fact under their belts?
LOL.

Amen to that Mark.
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