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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
"Why not increase the limits for this special occasion?" Well.... The kitties have already refilled their caches to the current limits since the servers came back up this morning. I am sure if the limits for GPU tasks were lifted or raised, I could download a significant amount of it or all of it before the servers shut down tomorrow afternoon. I'd love to be given the chance to prove it to you...LOL. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 0 |
I just wish I could upload the tasks I have completed.. not having any sucess. |
bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 861 Credit: 29,352,955 RAC: 0 |
"Why not increase the limits for this special occasion?" And when the downloads ceased entirely and SAH comes to a grinding halt because the database has gone belly up again, what then? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
"Why not increase the limits for this special occasion?" Time to reorganize or get some new DB software that can handle the amount of data in the Seti DB. Rumor has it, they do exist. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 861 Credit: 29,352,955 RAC: 0 |
"Why not increase the limits for this special occasion?" In that case they should just turn all the hardware off until they have saved up the money it would take to buy and implement the software. It shouldn't take more than 5 or 6 months. |
fscheel Send message Joined: 13 Apr 12 Posts: 73 Credit: 11,135,641 RAC: 0 |
I just wish I could upload the tasks I have completed.. not having any sucess. Is there a trick to get them to upload? |
Link Send message Joined: 18 Sep 03 Posts: 834 Credit: 1,807,369 RAC: 0 |
"Why not increase the limits for this special occasion?" Well, if you get more, somebody else gets less. As long as the bandwidth is saturated, they send out as much as they can, more than that won't be send out whatever the limits are, it will only be assigned. And for the project it does not matter who gets the WUs, so they send out max. 100 or 200 to each machine so everyone can get something. But maybe it's time to turn on the splitters, otherwise we will indeed not get as much as possible untill the outage. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I just wish I could upload the tasks I have completed.. not having any sucess. Abuse of the "retry" button :-) |
Kevin Benfield Send message Joined: 29 Dec 03 Posts: 39 Credit: 30,085,439 RAC: 0 |
Would be good to know if there is a trick to get the units to upload and to down load some new ones. Completely out of seti units sometime earlier today, is this another problem , or someone decide to prepare for the power outage early ? |
Michael W.F. Miles Send message Joined: 24 Mar 07 Posts: 268 Credit: 34,410,870 RAC: 0 |
They always do this now. I have seen this on every single outage that they plan for upgrades. They will stop allowing their volunteers to work for them. I have been for a while and I have done quite a bit of work and I have never seen outages like this. It used to be they would let us fill right up for a planned outage. Now they shut down 2 days before they plan on it. The servers now showing no splitters are up so no work at all. I have spent my entire morning pressing retry just to get my uploads in and I have still only got 20 uploaded. I have seen more people quit over these issues. These are people who have invested a lot of money building crunching machines and now they sit dormant. The other project especially medical ones are asking us to crunch for them. These are corporations who make huge money on our ability to crunch huge amounts of data. We have built the fastest computer on the planet and they want to take advantage of that. The only project that I will support is Seti but it is now becoming more of a pain in the butt just to volunteer for them |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
They always do this now. I have seen this on every single outage that they plan for upgrades. They will stop allowing their volunteers to work for them. Not sure why you are having problems, my three S@H rigs have uploaded 100+ and have downloaded the max tasks each, granted it took a little button pushing!! |
Kevin Benfield Send message Joined: 29 Dec 03 Posts: 39 Credit: 30,085,439 RAC: 0 |
Well , all units now uploaded, but was painfully slow for some reason. Have managed to just get 107 units, although still downloading at present, keeping fingers crossed for now, don't want to jinx it. When I run out of Seti units I do units for another project so had some of those running, this may have caused Seti to thing I had enough work, but suspending that project , while trying to request units eventually seemed to do the trick, or just may have chance. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
They always do this now. I have seen this on every single outage that they plan for upgrades. They will stop allowing their volunteers to work for them. They didn't shut down ahead of the outage, they crashed. I see what you're talking about, though. The splitters are all disabled or not running and the ready to send it almost down to nothing. However, I doubt this has anything to do with the coming outage. I have seen more people quit over these issues. These are people who have invested a lot of money building crunching machines and now they sit dormant. The other project especially medical ones are asking us to crunch for them. These are corporations who make huge money on our ability to crunch huge amounts of data. A lot of us also do Einstein@home. It's run by another university, not a corporation, and with its smaller number of users and the fact that it has actually found some of what it's looking for, you have a much better chance of being *the one* who finds something (well, one of *the ones*). David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Well, it looks like we're back from whatever partial outage we had last night. That would explain why the blue line stayed down while the green came back. It also sounds to me like a really good reason to move everything to that other building where someone can kick it. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Fred E. Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 768 Credit: 24,140,697 RAC: 0 |
I've been wondering if the planned electrical repairs and the server stoppages are related - something in the wiring knocking out the servers? I've seen refrigerators and air conditioners make the lights flicker when they start, especially if they are old and in a house with inadequate wiring. They just did some a/c upgrades and that could have led to a problem. I'm up to the meager limits and won't withstand the planned outage, so I fully support lifting the limits. I still think they hurt the project by reducing throughput more than they help. For file transfer problems, try briefly interrupting network communications on the activity menu for 3 to 15 seconds. Downloads will resume from where they were. Uploads will start over but that's no big deal. This usually helps me. Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web with GoodSearch or shop online with GoodShop. |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=70899 ...By the way I'm fully aware we are about to temporarily run out of workunits to send. I'm just waiting for a RAID resync to finish (in about 90 minutes) before firing up the splitters again. Claggy |
Michael W.F. Miles Send message Joined: 24 Mar 07 Posts: 268 Credit: 34,410,870 RAC: 0 |
We have been heard Thanks Matt |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
From outage to Shorty Storm :( Why oh why does this always happen ? Even on a GTX 550 it still takes longer to download a unit than it does to crunch it.... T.A. |
Tim Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 211 Credit: 278,575,259 RAC: 0 |
An hour and a half AP download… 10 mins, completion. :-) Tim |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22202 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
TA - Murphy rools OK. Its a pain, but it does happen quite often. And we've had a lot of shortie storms of late which can only be because the way the telescope is being used just now. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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