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Message 1339825 - Posted: 20 Feb 2013, 21:13:51 UTC

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Message 1339944 - Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 19:07:54 UTC - in response to Message 1339825.  

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Yep:) And the good news is, when I can finally drive my car, I can go there as much as I want!
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Message 1339961 - Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 19:27:10 UTC - in response to Message 1339944.  

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Yep:) And the good news is, when I can finally drive my car, I can go there as much as I want!

Just don't drive home again drunk.

(Do bars in Belgium, or anywhere else in Europe, do like some American bars and take your keys if you're obviously drunk so they don't get sued?)

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Message 1339974 - Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 19:38:02 UTC

Our government is introducing an alcohol lock to put in cars. First you have to blow and when you had too much alcohol, you can't start your car anymore. I think that would be quite effective. Me, I never drink and drive!
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Message 1339977 - Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 19:43:04 UTC - in response to Message 1339974.  

Our government is introducing an alcohol lock to put in cars. First you have to blow and when you had too much alcohol, you can't start your car anymore. I think that would be quite effective. Me, I never drink and drive!

Those exist here, but only as punishment for those who have already been convicted of drunk driving and who can't carry on their daily lives without their cars or for repeat offenders after their license is reinstated. There was even a public service announcement last year that featured it as a bad status symbol. (Guy and hot girl get in his car, he has to blow to start it, she realizes he's a creep and leaves.)

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Message 1339993 - Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 20:16:10 UTC - in response to Message 1339989.  

Our government is introducing an alcohol lock to put in cars. First you have to blow and when you had too much alcohol, you can't start your car anymore. I think that would be quite effective. Me, I never drink and drive!

Good for you Julie nor do I. This is a good idea, in principle and I support it. But what if some drunk driver gets a passer by to blow into the device for €20 so he can get home? It won't be a catch all.






Haven't thought of that. And people do a lot for money, that's also true...
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Message 1340013 - Posted: 21 Feb 2013, 21:07:27 UTC

Not a good idea.
You can get clean oxygen in a drugstore.



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Message 1340146 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 8:21:04 UTC

You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...
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Message 1340194 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 13:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 1340146.  
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You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...


Its not ll black and white Julie.

We germans are allowed 0,5 ‰.
Even we bavarians have the lowest accident rate in germany.
Also each driver who had a accident with alcohol had more than 1‰.


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Message 1340197 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 13:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 1340194.  

You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...


Its not ll black and white Julie.

We germans are allowed 0,5 ‰.
Even we bavarians have the lowest accident rate in germany.
Also each driver who had a accident with alcohol had more than 1‰.



I know Mike but over here it's a real problem...I even think we have one of the highest accident rates in Europe. And very sadly, lots of times it involves young people or kids. 1/3 of childrens deaths, is caused by traffic!
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Message 1340222 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 14:40:03 UTC

Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.

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Message 1340225 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 14:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 1340222.  
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Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.


No, 0,5 ‰ its millesimal.
Thats usually 1 beer and you are still save.


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Message 1340346 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 18:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 1340225.  

Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.


No, 0,5 ‰ its millesimal.
Thats usually 1 beer and you are still save.


That would be 0.05% - and that's above which you are in trouble when checked.
However, should you cause an accident and are measured above 0.03% you count as under the influence of alcohol...

It would help a lot if judges didn't argue 'he was drunk he's not responsible for his actions' but argued 'he is resposible for getting drunk in the first place'.

Everybody knows their limit after a while. Every time we get drunk we conciously go above that limit. We realise we are starting to get drunk and then we either carry on or we stop. That decision is our responsability.
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Message 1340367 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 19:50:30 UTC

Over here the limit is also 0.05%.
It used to be 0.08%
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Message 1340411 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 21:54:52 UTC

I used to champion the lowering of limits, because I drove all the time within or without./

Truth be told, it would not have mattered to me what the limits were.
I did what I had to do every day of my life, and I just happened to get lucky.

It is not my part now. I know the damage can be done, and the social limits wherewhithin. My ranges on the subject are different than most, and could not possibly be refined within the limits of these forums.
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Message 1340414 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 22:04:52 UTC - in response to Message 1340146.  

You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...


It's horrendous. In our area each year for the past year, a certain high school has had a DWI death where the kids had been partying.


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Message 1340418 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 22:10:39 UTC - in response to Message 1340414.  
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You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...


It's horrendous. In our area each year for the past year, a certain high school has had a DWI death where the kids had been partying.

And every day it's blamed on us, rather than the social issues that lead us to it....

You are all so ready to place blame.

I drink a lot, given. But I do not drive much unless sober these days.
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Message 1340420 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 22:12:08 UTC - in response to Message 1340346.  

Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.


No, 0,5 ‰ its millesimal.
Thats usually 1 beer and you are still save.


That would be 0.05% - and that's above which you are in trouble when checked.
However, should you cause an accident and are measured above 0.03% you count as under the influence of alcohol...

It would help a lot if judges didn't argue 'he was drunk he's not responsible for his actions' but argued 'he is resposible for getting drunk in the first place'.

Everybody knows their limit after a while. Every time we get drunk we conciously go above that limit. We realise we are starting to get drunk and then we either carry on or we stop. That decision is our responsability.


Only if you cause an accident.



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Message 1340424 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 22:17:14 UTC

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Message 1340469 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 18:12:47 UTC

The Wombat srevice is good ....

Just got served 3 fingers of Glenmorangie ... yumm ...
It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues



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