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Message 1340146 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 8:21:04 UTC

You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...
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Message 1340181 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 11:19:06 UTC

With regular trips within Southern England and general domestic chores, plus my Club attendances, I simply cannot afford to be without a driving licence. If one day I did drink and drive and knocked a kiddy over, I just wouldn't be able to live with myself, quite apart from whatever prison sentence I might also get.

Train drivers have what is known as a "Dead Mans Handle" where if the driver faints or has a heart attack, the train's emergency brakes are automatically applied. I am sure that I have also heard of a safety system for train drivers where a buzzer sounds in the cab at regular intervals, and has to be physically cancelled by the driver within a short timescale, else the brakes are again automatically applied.

Something like that could be applied to cars, which could negate the easy way around the in-built breathalyser problem, of getting a sober person to start the car. Even that wouldn't stop the most determined drunk driver, but it would reduce the risks as far as was practicable.

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Message 1340194 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 13:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 1340146.
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You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...


Its not ll black and white Julie.

We germans are allowed 0,5 ‰.
Even we bavarians have the lowest accident rate in germany.
Also each driver who had a accident with alcohol had more than 1‰.
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Message 1340197 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 13:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 1340194.

You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...


Its not ll black and white Julie.

We germans are allowed 0,5 ‰.
Even we bavarians have the lowest accident rate in germany.
Also each driver who had a accident with alcohol had more than 1‰.



I know Mike but over here it's a real problem...I even think we have one of the highest accident rates in Europe. And very sadly, lots of times it involves young people or kids. 1/3 of childrens deaths, is caused by traffic!
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Message 1340222 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 14:40:03 UTC

Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.

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Message 1340225 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 14:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 1340222.
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Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.


No, 0,5 ‰ its millesimal.
Thats usually 1 beer and you are still save.
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Message 1340346 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 18:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 1340225.

Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.


No, 0,5 ‰ its millesimal.
Thats usually 1 beer and you are still save.


That would be 0.05% - and that's above which you are in trouble when checked.
However, should you cause an accident and are measured above 0.03% you count as under the influence of alcohol...

It would help a lot if judges didn't argue 'he was drunk he's not responsible for his actions' but argued 'he is resposible for getting drunk in the first place'.

Everybody knows their limit after a while. Every time we get drunk we conciously go above that limit. We realise we are starting to get drunk and then we either carry on or we stop. That decision is our responsability.
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Message 1340367 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 19:50:30 UTC

Over here the limit is also 0.05%.
It used to be 0.08%
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Message 1340409 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 21:49:08 UTC

In the UK, the alcohol limit for drivers is 80mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood, 35mg per 100ml of breath or 107mg per 100ml of urine. In most other European countries, the limit is less, usually 50mg per 100ml of blood.

There are moves to lower the limit.

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Message 1340414 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 22:04:52 UTC - in response to Message 1340146.

You'd be surprised how many people drink and drive. I hear it all the time on the news, so sad really...


It's horrendous. In our area each year for the past year, a certain high school has had a DWI death where the kids had been partying.
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Message 1340420 - Posted: 22 Feb 2013, 22:12:08 UTC - in response to Message 1340346.

Half a percent??!!

Over here, it's technically up to each state to set the legal limit. However, if the federal government wants to set a limit, it can get around the Constitution by making it a condition for federal funding for something (usually highways) that they have to set their limit where the feds want it. I'm not aware of any state where the limit is higher than 0.08%.


No, 0,5 ‰ its millesimal.
Thats usually 1 beer and you are still save.


That would be 0.05% - and that's above which you are in trouble when checked.
However, should you cause an accident and are measured above 0.03% you count as under the influence of alcohol...

It would help a lot if judges didn't argue 'he was drunk he's not responsible for his actions' but argued 'he is resposible for getting drunk in the first place'.

Everybody knows their limit after a while. Every time we get drunk we conciously go above that limit. We realise we are starting to get drunk and then we either carry on or we stop. That decision is our responsability.


Only if you cause an accident.

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Message 1340469 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 18:12:47 UTC

The Wombat srevice is good ....

Just got served 3 fingers of Glenmorangie ... yumm ...
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Message 1340481 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 18:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 1340469.

The Wombat srevice is good ....

Just got served 3 fingers of Glenmorangie ... yumm ...


Hmm. Maybe a drop of Chivas Regal 18y later.
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Message 1340497 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 19:04:29 UTC - in response to Message 1340481.

The Wombat srevice is good ....

Just got served 3 fingers of Glenmorangie ... yumm ...


Hmm. Maybe a drop of Chivas Regal 18y later.



And we mustn't forget the Jura! Mmmmm...
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Message 1340509 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 19:29:12 UTC


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Message 1340515 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 19:35:17 UTC - in response to Message 1340509.


The best single malt there is, according to me :)
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Message 1340537 - Posted: 24 Feb 2013, 20:26:57 UTC

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