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Message 1514791 - Posted: 11 May 2014, 17:37:53 UTC - in response to Message 1514783.  

Tell them NOt tO Build VacatiOn HOmes fOr thOse whO can affOrd them.

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Message 1514871 - Posted: 12 May 2014, 2:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 1514791.  

Do you heat and air condition your home. what kind of car do you drive.
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Message 1514962 - Posted: 12 May 2014, 10:19:58 UTC - in response to Message 1514871.  

Do you heat and air condition your home. what kind of car do you drive.

No, no, and an LPG Powered 20-year old Ford Orion.

Your move.
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Message 1514979 - Posted: 12 May 2014, 12:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 1514962.  

Do you heat and air condition your home. what kind of car do you drive.

No, no, and an LPG Powered 20-year old Ford Orion.

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Move, I have an eight cylinder Mustang GT, it moves very well.

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Message 1517707 - Posted: 18 May 2014, 0:21:12 UTC

Moving on from the pissing contest. I just replaced my CFl's with LED lights in my kitchen and laundry room. Next week will be the living room.
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Message 1518173 - Posted: 19 May 2014, 12:55:57 UTC - in response to Message 1517707.  

Moving on from the pissing contest. I just replaced my CFl's with LED lights in my kitchen and laundry room. Next week will be the living room.

I've been slowly doing that whenever one breaks (which seems to be happening more and more frequently, they are pretty old CFLs). Probably knocked about a fiver a month off the bill, hard to measure such things.
Why anyone would still buy incandescents is beyond me.
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Message 1518329 - Posted: 19 May 2014, 18:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 1518173.  

Why anyone would still buy incandescents is beyond me.

In the US of A the robber barons will use trick to get their dogs to salivate.
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Message 1518341 - Posted: 19 May 2014, 18:58:46 UTC - in response to Message 1518329.  

Why anyone would still buy incandescents is beyond me.

In the US of A the robber barons will use trick to get their dogs to salivate.

Eh?
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Message 1518379 - Posted: 19 May 2014, 20:11:46 UTC - in response to Message 1518341.  
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Why anyone would still buy incandescents is beyond me.

In the US of A the robber barons will use any trick to get their dogs to salivate.

Eh?

It was a Pavlov's Dog reference. The robber barons are the radical right who say any conservation initiative is a liberal plot. The dogs are those who are trained to agree with anything they say. It the US the dogs got up in arms over the switch to LEDs as they were told it was an Obama plot.
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Message 1518616 - Posted: 20 May 2014, 6:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 1518173.  

Moving on from the pissing contest. I just replaced my CFl's with LED lights in my kitchen and laundry room. Next week will be the living room.

I've been slowly doing that whenever one breaks (which seems to be happening more and more frequently, they are pretty old CFLs). Probably knocked about a fiver a month off the bill, hard to measure such things.
Why anyone would still buy incandescents is beyond me.

Ive been noticeing my CFL's failing also. Ive had them for 5 or six years.They seem to be failing at where the glass meets the ceramic base.

So far I like the LED's. I havent seen any 3way bulbs for them yet though. But they do have ones that are dimmable.
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Message 1519124 - Posted: 21 May 2014, 11:55:42 UTC - in response to Message 1518616.  
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... Why anyone would still buy incandescents is beyond me.

Ive been noticeing my CFL's failing also. Ive had them for 5 or six years.They seem to be failing at where the glass meets the ceramic base.

So far I like the LED's...

The old tech incandescent bulbs are fine still if for some strange reason you really do want the electrical heating to waste! :-(

But yes, they are completely outdated now by the much better CFLs, cold-cathode fluorescents (instantly 'on'), and now by the ever better LEDs.


The one annoyance is that the supermarkets and DIY shops seem to add a huge premium on the LED lighting. Or you get bamboozled by cheaper units with impossibly feeble light or by the cheap "blue not white" LEDs.

For most examples, best is to go online and compare the light output and the colour 'temperature'. For evening lights, something 3000K to 4500K is best for a 'warm' light. For work areas then the more blue/cold 5000K to 6000K are fine.

Don't try the 6000K for bedtime reading... You'll be kept awake thinking it is morning!


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Message 1519127 - Posted: 21 May 2014, 12:02:41 UTC

Very slow movement for this option... All a game of profitable procrastination?...


Oil and gas fields in UK could become CO2 dumps

The UK's exhausted oil and gas fields in the North Sea could be transformed into a lucrative dump for Europe's CO2 emissions...

... "The UK's geology under the North Sea is a potential asset to exploit and if we can find ways of getting another income stream by accepting someone else's unwanted CO2 it might move forward the date when CCS (carbon capture and storage) in the UK is commercially viable,"...

... To date, it has delivered only initial funding to two projects - a gas plant at Peterhead in north-east Scotland and a coal plant, Drax, in North Yorkshire. The expected start date of CCS has been pushed back from 2014 to 2020. The MPs say the delay has called into question the credibility of government policy.

Mr Yeo said: "Fitting power stations with technology to capture and store carbon is absolutely vital if we are to avoid dangerously destabilizing the climate.

"These two demonstration projects will not be enough to kick-start the CCS industry or have a significant impact on our carbon budgets,"

The world's first full-scale power plant with full CCS is due to open soon in the US - the CO2 will be used to enhance oil recovery.

The technology has been progressing slowly worldwide, with Norway - previously a world leader, reducing support.

WWF said the government should not plan new fossil fuel power plants under the assumption that CCS would become economically viable. ...



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Message 1519171 - Posted: 21 May 2014, 14:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 1519127.  
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"Fitting power stations with technology to capture and store carbon


A fool's errand if ever there was one.

You heard it here first !!
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Message 1519210 - Posted: 21 May 2014, 16:33:09 UTC - in response to Message 1519171.  
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"Fitting power stations with technology to capture and store carbon

A fool's errand if ever there was one.

You heard it here first !!

Hey! There's got to be some comic in that!!!


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Message 1520447 - Posted: 23 May 2014, 23:33:25 UTC

Going from low to high whilst burning less of our environment:


Fuel for jets DOES grow on trees

Airbus-and-Virgin-funded study finds oil-rich Australian shrubbery can take to the skies...

... proposes developing commercial processing in the Western Australian wheat belt, where a small amount of land – about six per cent of a farm – could be diverted from cropping to growing the trees.

That would give a triple-whammy effect, helping provide a lower-carbon jet fuel while at the same time improving farm environments (for example, rebalancing the water table), and supplementing farm incomes.

As well, it would get around a criticism that plagues the biofuel ethanol, that it essentially steals food from humans. With only a small proportion of farm land devoted to a non-food crop, displacement isn't an issue...

... Paradoxically, Australia's science agency CSIRO, a member of the CRC, is now considering slashing its alternative fuel programs to try and cope with swingeing cuts from the new Australian federal government.

The agency has had its funding cut...



Did not Bush push the same sort of policies to keep lingering in ignorance to keep burning the old fossils longer?


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Message 1521670 - Posted: 27 May 2014, 21:47:18 UTC

And now for other ways to go from low to high more efficiently:


Could the era of glass skyscrapers be over?

One of the architects behind London's famous Gherkin skyscraper has now turned against glass buildings. Is it time tall towers were made out of something else[?]...

... We need to be much more responsible...

... Glass lets out and lets in a lot of heat. A vast amount of energy is required for an office full of people to remain cool in the UAE and to stay warm in the snowstorms of Toronto. Governments are now so concerned by the long-term impact of "solar gain" - the extent to which a building absorbs sunlight and heats up - that they have introduced strict regulations...

... However, the trade association Glass for Europe has dismissed what they consider "a preconceived idea" that glass is bad...



Note how for this example, it is the "glass trade association" that is squealing denial...

Is the London Shard the last of the great glass skyscrapers?

Hopefully so if there are better more efficient more effective ways!


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Message 1521675 - Posted: 27 May 2014, 21:54:19 UTC

This thread has run a fast and furious course.

Continued in the #2 thread...


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