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Message 1496270 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 20:57:42 UTC

I don't see a problem with my nomenclature.

Good afternoon, but I digress...
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Message 1496295 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 21:28:38 UTC - in response to Message 1496270.  

I don't see a problem with my nomenclature.

Good afternoon, but I digress...

That's obvious from your chosen name here on these boards, it is just a disguise for Creationism.
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Message 1496297 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 21:32:01 UTC - in response to Message 1496295.  
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I don't see a problem with my nomenclature.

Good afternoon, but I digress...

That's obvious from your chosen name here on these boards, it is just a disguise for Creationism.



Or is it for Intelligent Design? (kidding)
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Message 1496307 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 21:56:14 UTC - in response to Message 1496295.  

You sir are way off topic. Just saying...
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Message 1496309 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 21:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 1496297.  

As are you, way off topic. Please reprimand yourself... (kidding)...but I digress.
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Message 1496315 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 22:02:42 UTC

Sometimes discussing a topic is needed within the topic of another thread. Now we're getting back on topic shall we...
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Message 1496321 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 22:12:41 UTC - in response to Message 1496315.  
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Thank you for reprimanding yourself, that must have been hard on you, as you wish, back to topic...
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Message 1496326 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 22:18:23 UTC

Hard on me? Not at all ID:)
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Message 1496329 - Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 22:26:17 UTC - in response to Message 1496045.  

I will ask again, is climate change needed for life on this rock, human life in particular?
Human beings are one of the most adaptable macro-life species on the planet, as evidenced by the fact we can survive at all latitudes from the poles to the plains of Africa.
Even if some other species die out as a result of the planet warming, more will take their place, that's what evolution does.
So whilst climate change may not be necessary for life to continue, i have no doubt that life will continue despite climate change.
That answer your question?


Some insect life will do very well! Those species we've done our best to eradicate are still going strong, and all of them are more resilient than they were as a result of our efforts.
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Message 1496612 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 13:38:26 UTC
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A solution in the making? Who would have thought from such a noisy sport!


Malaysian GP: F1 engine sound better than I thought - Ecclestone

... Supporters of the new engines point out that F1 was losing its appeal to manufacturers because the former 2.4-litre V8s no longer had relevance to the development of road cars.

Manufacturers say developing the new engines to the fuel-restriction formula will have a direct impact on road-car technology. Adopting the engines ensured Renault stayed in the sport when it would otherwise have quit and has attracted Honda back from 2015.

The new engines produce a quieter sound for a number of reasons. ...

... And the increased torque and wider torque band means they do not need to use all the revs for best performance.

Engineers say the fuel-flow limit cannot be abandoned because it would lead development down a path that was not relevant to road cars.



All a question of what the design goals are...

Do you want to live dirty and ignorant? Or can our intelligence allow us all to design to live better?




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Message 1496635 - Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 14:40:19 UTC - in response to Message 1496612.  

F1 this season uses 1.6l V6 turbo charged engines with two energy recovery systems as opposed to last years normally aspirated 2.4l V8's, with one limited energy recovery system. The max fuel to be used per race has fallen from 160 ltr to 100 ltr, a 37.5% efficiency improvement.

The noise has decreased by ~9db, but they are still capable of causing deafness if you stand too close. Most of the noise has been taken up by the oversized turbo that drives a motor-generator when the brakes are applied. Basically the exhaust gasses now do some work instead of being blown out at high speed and pressure which caused the loud noise before.

For those familiar with turbo's the lag, a big problem with turbo's, has been virtually eliminated because the motor-generator, by the energy recovered during the braking phase, is now used to spin up the turbo when it is required.

But Formula 1 is still not green, because it takes millions of liters of fuel to move the circus around the world every year.
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Message 1497961 - Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 20:48:33 UTC - in response to Message 1496635.  
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... But Formula 1 is still not green, because it takes millions of liters of fuel to move the circus around the world every year.

The idea/hope is that the high tech tuning and advancements made for F1, now that one of the race criteria is fuel efficiency, will drive better development of everyday road vehicles to make the millions of vehicles used every day themselves each more efficient...


And that is all still wrapped up in some rather dubious Marketing...

At least it is vaguely in the right direction and at least it acknowledges that we must be less polluting with our industrialization.


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Message 1497964 - Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 20:53:09 UTC
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Is this a sign of the recognition of the end of the old and polluting dirty to instead profit from the rise of a clean industry new way of our living on our planet?


World’s largest sovereign wealth fund will invest in renewables

The largest sovereign wealth fund in the world has pledged to invest more in renewable energy technology. ...

The fund currently has 9 per cent of its holdings in the traditional coal, oil and gas industries and owns the equivalent of 1 per cent of the world's stocks. However the move to invest more in renewables signifies a move towards divestment from fossil fuels and could resonate throughout the global investment community...

... The news comes weeks after an alliance of 17 major funds pledged to divest $2 billion from fossil fuels and re-invest into clean energy. The divestment movement has been gathering traction in recent months...




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Message 1497974 - Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 21:30:55 UTC

The solution to Carbon Emission are Modern Design, modern materials build and CAREFULLY PLACED Fission Power Plants.

It's hilarious that most of you reflexively reject the actual solution.
If you don't touch it, you can't break it.
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Message 1497997 - Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 22:55:46 UTC - in response to Message 1497969.  
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Martin, using Blue Man Group (an entertaining show I've seen 3 times) and Formula 1 racing (3.1 U.S. MPG) as a source of scientific solutions to saving the planet is not going to work.

If all this was 'just' a question of the 'science', then we would already have the solution. For example, just last year the oil companies spent more money/resource on exploring for more oil than the ENTIRE WORLD SCIENCE BUDGET. In stark contrast, we can go completely clean on just a fraction of the oil exploration budget burnt each year.

The really crazy thing is that we already have more oil than we can afford the pollution to be able to burn it. Is that why the fossil fuels companies are spending ever more money on their political lobbying and on their FUD advertising message to the public?...


Better education and good publicity from such everyday events such as The Blue Man Group and F1 is part of the story to counter the Fossil Fuel FUD. The shift in investment funds away from the ever more precarious Fossils is going to be the real killer.

Meanwhile, the honest and consistent message from Science, and our world, will remain DAMNED (physically and USA religiously) until...


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Message 1498040 - Posted: 1 Apr 2014, 1:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 1497969.  

Martin, using Blue Man Group (an entertaining show I've seen 3 times) and Formula 1 racing (3.1 U.S. MPG) as a source of scientific solutions to saving the planet is not going to work.

Why not. F1 fuel-saving flywheel to be fitted to London's buses
Go-ahead to fit technology, developed by Williams F1, to six prototype buses – with fuel savings estimated at up to 30%


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And that is yesterdays F1 technology.
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Message 1498212 - Posted: 1 Apr 2014, 15:23:12 UTC - in response to Message 1498040.  
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Martin, using Blue Man Group (an entertaining show I've seen 3 times) and Formula 1 racing (3.1 U.S. MPG) as a source of scientific solutions to saving the planet is not going to work.

Why not. F1 fuel-saving flywheel to be fitted to London's buses
Go-ahead to fit technology, developed by Williams F1, to six prototype buses – with fuel savings estimated at up to 30%
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And that is yesterdays F1 technology.

Thanks for that.

Interesting that the flywheels are possibly making a comeback on buses.

There's a few variations on that theme for running the bus on a very small efficient engine to continuously slowly recharge the flywheel and have no heavy engine at all. After all, the big heavy expensive powerplant is very inefficiently idle or at best underutilized for most of the time.

There are other use cases trialed for buses and local line trains whereby a flywheel is electrically recharged at the passenger stops.


All that makes for a good contest between all-electric and heavy batteries, vs hybrid, vs using overhead electric pickup...


There are better ways than burning oil...

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Message 1498213 - Posted: 1 Apr 2014, 15:28:51 UTC - in response to Message 1498212.  

As I said in F1 terms it's yesterdays technology, and so it has been announced today that they have sold the business to GKN.

GKN buys Williams Grand Prix's flywheel energy storage business
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Message 1498214 - Posted: 1 Apr 2014, 15:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 1497997.  

... Better education and good publicity from such everyday events such as The Blue Man Group and F1 is part of the story to counter the Fossil Fuel FUD. The shift in investment funds away from the ever more precarious Fossils is going to be the real killer. ...


And another big investments shift:


UK green bank invests £460m in offshore windfarms

The UK green investment bank (GIB) has made two of its biggest investments to date, ploughing over £460m into two of the country's largest offshore wind projects...

... "The bank has now invested well over £600m in five offshore wind farms and mobilised £1.3bn of total funding," he said. "This industry has the potential to generate thousands of new skilled jobs and billions in business investment...



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