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Message 1402906 - Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 4:48:55 UTC - in response to Message 1402901.  

Here is the secret: you use solutions where they work, and not where they will not. For where they will not work: you find another solution.

It sure beats putting your head in the sand and saying there is no problem.

Can you say nuclear power generation?

Can you say global population reduction?

Solutions waiting for implementation.

Probably yes, and one way would be to increase efforts in education.
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Message 1403143 - Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 18:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1402977.  

Chris, solar can feed excess back to the grid, providing additional power, and at night the conserved resources when demand is less.
These might be cogeneration, nuclear, wind(many areas are quite windy at night in California) hydro can easily fill the difference.

If the power generated exceeds the power used, and more is produced during peak demands then it can be said to be self powering.

As with Tesla, they said it would never happen and it is. Same with SpaceX. This guy has a track record of getting things done. While it is not a solution to all the problems, I would not be quick to dismiss it too quickly. Right of ways along the I5 corridor should be wide enough, and the primary this route would have been suggested is it is primarily straight and flat. Outlet tubes at alternate spots along the route should not be difficult to engineer. And in fact this project has been sent for further engineering. Case: open.
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Message 1403155 - Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 19:22:13 UTC - in response to Message 1403152.  

this is not a domestic solar installation, it would be pure industrialized. And we are talking about a payback in total kilowatt hours used. That is what makes it "self powering"( and the self powering/solar thing I am not sure who put that in, but I do not recall hearing about it for this project, although less fuel than flying seems an EASILY obtainable goal.
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Message 1403236 - Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 22:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 1403159.  

Um.. yes, yes I would. I think you assume much to assume you would need to lay prone the entire trip. And reasonably, he has billions at his disposal, and can acquire further billions. Is this so different ( and his cost analysis shows significantly LESS) than high speed rail?

seat belts fastened, in a pod, take out your reading material.. and quite possibly in and out a lot faster than it takes you to get molested at the airport.
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Message 1403268 - Posted: 15 Aug 2013, 0:45:38 UTC - in response to Message 1403236.  

seat belts fastened, in a pod, take out your reading material.. and quite possibly in and out a lot faster than it takes you to get molested at the airport.

It is mass transit, you will still have to be molested, still have to take the shuttle from the parking to the station ...

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Message 1403377 - Posted: 15 Aug 2013, 9:34:05 UTC

As long as there's more legroom than an economy class flight, i'd be happy to take it.
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Message 1404124 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 3:05:09 UTC
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What a difference a little insulation makes:


Households cut energy use by a quarter

... increasing use of energy efficiency measures, such as insulation, double-glazing and new boilers, may also be playing its part. ...



Now how do we drag the building industry screaming and kicking to build better more efficient and affordable livable homes rather than their present ramshackle throw-ups that are unimaginative and built for the convenience of the builder?...


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Message 1404147 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 4:55:01 UTC - in response to Message 1404124.  

Now how do we drag the building industry screaming and kicking to build better more efficient and affordable livable homes rather than their present ramshackle throw-ups that are unimaginative and built for the convenience of the builder?...

Oh, yes! Rip down 80% of the world's houses, burn the wood so we don't landfill it releasing the stored carbon and then use billions of tons of oil and massive amounts of old growth forest to put up new modern houses in their place. You, have such good plans Martin.

Oh wait, they already did it. Title 24.

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Message 1404539 - Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 4:57:36 UTC

Well here in New York the frost line is 3 feet down. So just build a hobbit house and you can save big bucks. That is untill the utilitys lose money and raise the rates.
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Message 1405003 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 12:06:44 UTC

Coasts should prepare for rising seas

NEW YORK (AP) -- A presidential task force charged with developing a strategy for rebuilding areas damaged by Superstorm Sandy has issued a report recommending 69 policy initiatives, most focused on a simple warning: Plan for future storms in an age of climate change and rising sea levels.
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Message 1405013 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 12:58:04 UTC - in response to Message 1404147.  

Oh, yes! Rip down 80% of the world's houses, burn the wood so we don't landfill it releasing the stored carbon and then use billions of tons of oil and massive amounts of old growth forest to put up new modern houses in their place. You, have such good plans Martin.

Oh wait, they already did it. Title 24.

I think the suggestion was that new houses should be built to the higher standards, as should the replacements for the old houses when they need rebuilding.
Knocking down existing good houses and rebuilding them would be the equivalent of the scrappage scheme for cars.
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Message 1405660 - Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 21:53:35 UTC

UN Agenda 21 pretty much sums it all up.

We all want clean air, water, land and food, but phony environmentalism is designed to create fear in order to implement the policies of tyranny. For example, the Globalists used global warming fear mongering in order to usher in the Cap & Trade and carbon tax schemes without debate.

Like I said Money, Power, Control.
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Message 1405674 - Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 22:17:45 UTC - in response to Message 1405660.  
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We all want clean air, water, land and food, but phony environmentalism is designed to create fear in order to implement the policies of tyranny. For example, the Globalists used global warming fear mongering in order to usher in the Cap & Trade and carbon tax schemes without debate.

Like I said Money, Power, Control.

So... For your conspiracy theory... Where do your unidentified 'Globalists' gain profit? Whereas the immediately identified fossil fuels industry are already profiteering from their unchecked pollution at everyone else's expense...

Why do we need any conspiracy theories when we already have certain parts of industry already directly profiting from holding onto the said "Money, Power, Control"?


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Message 1406852 - Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 11:30:24 UTC

So to stop the rise in sea level, we find some way to send all the rain to Australia.

Australian floods of 2010 and 2011 caused global sea level to drop

Puzzled oceanographers who wondered where the sea level rise went for 18 months now have their answer – it went to Australia


But Australia, as any Australian will proudly claim, is different.

Rain that falls in the outback of the largest island - also the smallest continent - tends to dribble away into inland waterways and seemingly get lost, without ever making it to the coast, or to collect in shallow inland seas and stay there till it evaporates.
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Message 1406868 - Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 12:36:37 UTC - in response to Message 1406866.  
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Sea level rise is expected to continue for centuries. In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projected that during the 21st century, sea level will rise another 18 to 59 cm (7.1 to 23 in), but these numbers do not include "uncertainties in climate-carbon cycle feedbacks nor do they include the full effects of changes in ice sheet flow". More recent projections assessed by the US National Research Council (2010) suggest possible sea level rise over the 21st century of between 56 and 200 cm (22 and 79 in).


Source Sea level rise


So move anything important to more than 7 feet above sea level, or start building a wall.
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Message 1407186 - Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 6:47:18 UTC - in response to Message 1406874.  
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Sea rise map

Not to knock this study, But where I live in Ny and the surrounding counties we are any where from 315 to 450 feet above sea level. So that map showing New York state as under water is bogus. New York city is another matter. Along with coastal areas of NY.

edit- I should have clicked on the state. It shows the major metro areas that would be under water. 9 million poeple would be displaced.
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Message 1407260 - Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 11:56:15 UTC - in response to Message 1407220.  

What is interesting is to compare that map that shows the western and eastern seaboards under water, with the population dispersal map during the last USA elections. Very similar. Looks like the majority of Americans live in flood risk areas!


I think I am right in saying that 98% of all major cities are either on the coast or major waterways. And that is because until 1830 the major transport systems were by boat.
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Message 1407314 - Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 15:02:02 UTC - in response to Message 1407260.  

What is interesting is to compare that map that shows the western and eastern seaboards under water, with the population dispersal map during the last USA elections. Very similar. Looks like the majority of Americans live in flood risk areas!


I think I am right in saying that 98% of all major cities are either on the coast or major waterways. And that is because until 1830 the major transport systems were by boat.

I think you would be correct.

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Message 1414799 - Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 20:45:55 UTC
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We continue to pollute The World.

Meanwhile, small positive progress is made:


Global warming, ethanol, and will-o-wisp solutions

Contrary to common perceptions, corn-based ethanol is a useful technology on the road to reducing carbon emissions...

... So, should we discard corn-ethanol outright? No. But we should view it as a testing ground for the real solution of cellulosic ethanol. It is a solution that creates winners everywhere.



The world does need a red line – on climate change

Activists agree we must fight the Keystone XL pipeline in the US, but also chip away at the political power of the fossil fuel industry...


China vows to tackle air pollution

Beijing unveils measures to close old polluting mills and smelters and cut coal use to halt worsening air pollution...


All too feeble or small parts of the beginnings of a world-wide solution?


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Message 1415561 - Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 10:54:56 UTC
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Another small step for the fossils to go clean?


Carbon capture and storage to be monitored by cosmic rays

Carbon capture and storage (CCS) is a proposed route to mitigate fossil-fuel greenhouse gases' impact on Earth's atmosphere, oceans and climate.

In CCS, CO2 is captured from fuel burning at the power station, and pumped back down into the very rocks that maybe once yielded that fuel. Likely storage sites for CO2 will be depleted gas and oil fields one to two km down, with many candidates in the old oil and gas fields of the North Sea.

A few test sites around the world suggest that CO2 can indeed be returned to the deep Earth successfully, but attention has now turned to monitoring its behaviour at depth...




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