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Message 1444930 - Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 6:00:09 UTC

Careful what you watch.....

Smart TV's spy on you
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Message 1444953 - Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 8:08:14 UTC - in response to Message 1444930.  

Careful what you watch.....

Smart TV's spy on you

Ive often wonderd if the DVR from my cable company knows what show Im watching or have recorded. I beleive they do know.
You dont hear anything about Neilson ratings anymore. So the networks must have a deal with the TV show studios on what is going down.
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Message 1444989 - Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 11:23:28 UTC
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Caveat Emptor. Virtually anything you buy these days on the internet, or from magazines, has somewhere in the small print "If you do NOT want to receive further communications from us, or our associated companies, tick here". Most people miss that so they get stuff by default. Almost any software you download off the Internet these days will also install Google Chrome unless you look hard for the no box.

Why are we in this situation? Because apart from a few areas of growth, there is still a worldwide recession. Consequently companies are getting increasingly desperate to remain in business. Advertising is key to that, and the people that advertise on TV pore over the viewing figures to pick the most popular shows to place their adverts within. This LG business seems a back door way to gauge viewers habits automatically without using ratings providers. We can only presume that the data is or was intended to be sold on for profit.

Is it ethical - No
Should it be off by default - Yes
Should the off setting work - yes
Should you buy LG products - your choice

The question to be asked now is, do All smart tv's of whatever make do this whether or not there is a hidden off option? If the question is not answerable, and you feel that your viewing habits and data are private to you, then don't buy a smart TV, or if you do don't plug it in to the Internet. There are plenty of good flat screen HD sets without internet connections that you can buy. The world is the way it is, you have to be as smart as the TV's!

Late edit - Cable companies are a bigger risk than other ISP's but some people only have that choice.
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Message 1445106 - Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 18:30:25 UTC

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Message 1445115 - Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 18:47:17 UTC
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Just talking to a Lawyer, in Miami, a couple of days ago about a similar concern.

His response.

"If you have nothing to hide..."

I was speechless!
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Message 1445158 - Posted: 21 Nov 2013, 19:40:33 UTC
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That has always been my response to monitoring by National Security Agencies, for the benefit of protecting my country, but private companies misappropriating my personal viewing data for marketing purposes, is a different matter altogether. In the time honoured phrase

This is something up with which I will not put.


LG Smart TV's have got quite reasonable Which? magazine ratings up until now, it will be interesting to see what happens in the future. Their response at the moment is woolly to say the least.
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Message 1452796 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 15:49:30 UTC
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Can we really trust the muppets that use I.T. in retail business'es?

Zavvi threatens "legal action"

Totally agree that the items should be returned but if I got a letter like that, I would return it, but only after getting them to turn up for collection on XXXXXX amount of times before I "suddenly became" available for home collection!

"A heavy handed approach to ensure mistakenly delivered goods are returned will at best bring out a Machiavellian streak in a small group of people and at worst damage the reputation of the business to loyal honest customers - its core source of profit - who are now being told by the business that 'we don't trust you'"."

Wonder how much profit they'll make this Xmas?
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Message 1452824 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 17:48:40 UTC
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George Orwell '1984' is MUST reading for today.

Government spying, and control of Private behavior, is necessary during time of War. Wars usually have a beginning, an end, and the necessary/unnecessary controls are removed. But this war by Islamist Terrorists has occurred repeatedly over the past thousand years, it is an IDEA, and never really ends.

Today, a 'Never Ending War' has degenerated into 'Never Ending Control and Spying' against the 99.9% of the innocent population. Just like '1984'.

The Government Agencies (NEVER to be trusted) monitor our Public movements and our Private moments. Just like '1984'.

Private Companies just want your spending money. YOU decide if you want to buy their product or services.

History has shown, and will show, that all Government Power will become corrupt and lead to the destruction of the People.

'1984' is our present and future
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Message 1452834 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 18:00:46 UTC

Please send all you money and possessions to

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Message 1452837 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 18:03:03 UTC

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety".

Benjamin Franklin

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Message 1452843 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 18:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1452834.  

Please send all you money and possessions to

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See... YOU HAVE A CHOICE either to send, or not send.

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Message 1452853 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 18:21:35 UTC

I prefer "A Modern Utopia" (1905) and "Men Like Gods" (1923), and "Brave New World" (1932).

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Message 1452869 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 18:36:50 UTC - in response to Message 1452853.  
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I prefer "A Modern Utopia" (1905) and "Men Like Gods" (1923), and "Brave New World" (1932).



Haven't read "Men Like Gods".

Will be on my reading list. Hopefully available in Book Form. Have tried 'Tablets' and 'Kindles'. PREFER BOOKS!

"Animal Farm" (1945) should also be on people's lists.
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Message 1452988 - Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 21:23:17 UTC

Don't forget the 1936 film "Things to come".

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