Can we really trust IT?

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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1351648 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 23:09:42 UTC How long before some crime syndicate gets the idea to militarize and give a little demonstration say opening the flood gates of a dam and then demands the crown jewels not to do it in thousands of systems. ID: 1351648 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1351650 - Posted: 28 Mar 2013, 23:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 1351648. Naw, that's impossible isn't it.... ...I mean, the backbone of the Internet is Linux after all & that's unhackable. ID: 1351650 ·

ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20	Message 1351674 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 1:45:02 UTC - in response to Message 1351650. Last modified: 29 Mar 2013, 1:45:14 UTC Naw, that's impossible isn't it.... ...I mean, the backbone of the Internet is Linux after all & that's unhackable. So... The internet stays up unperturbed to keep the channels open to the vulnerable SCADA end points to be held open to ransom... The USA can have all the vague 'laws' it likes about not somehow 'hacking'/'cracking' whatever online systems. If the windows are left wide open, there's always some mischievous imp that will oblige... Abandon your cracked windows for something somewhat more reliable?... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1351674 ·

skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60	Message 1351896 - Posted: 29 Mar 2013, 18:49:38 UTC http://americablog.com/2013/03/spamhaus-accuses-cyberbunker-of-massive-cyberattack.html Cyberbunker appears to be part of the problem In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 1351896 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1354420 - Posted: 7 Apr 2013, 16:01:27 UTC http://www.instawallet.org/ http://www.infoworld.com/t/data-security/cyber-criminals-look-cash-in-bitcoins-soaring-value-215923 Funny how that is. Isn't Bitcoin built on FLOSS? Sure don't ever remember anything like this on this proprietary system https://www.paypal.com/home Security has to be designed in by professionals in security, not your average drive by contributor to a FLOSS project. ID: 1354420 ·

James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54	Message 1354460 - Posted: 7 Apr 2013, 18:22:56 UTC - in response to Message 1354420. http://www.instawallet.org/ http://www.infoworld.com/t/data-security/cyber-criminals-look-cash-in-bitcoins-soaring-value-215923 Funny how that is. Isn't Bitcoin built on FLOSS? Sure don't ever remember anything like this on this proprietary system https://www.paypal.com/home Security has to be designed in by professionals in security, not your average drive by contributor to a FLOSS project. I guess we will see how good FLOSS is at keeping the bad guys out of what they set their sights on wont we? [/quote] Old James ID: 1354460 ·

ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20	Message 1356551 - Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 12:13:31 UTC - in response to Message 1354460. Security has to be designed in by professionals in security, not your average drive by contributor to a FLOSS project. I guess we will see how good FLOSS is at keeping the bad guys out of what they set their sights on wont we? Which is where the open peer review works so well. And for anything of interest/importance, you can bet there is lots of peer review. Meanwhile, how do you know that there isn't some "less than average capability" hidden behind whatever proprietary software? Especially so when there is that very deliberate secrecy there to hide everything and everything is run down to the cheapest costs... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1356551 ·

ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20	Message 1356552 - Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 12:18:20 UTC Just one of the latest "ouches" to watch out for: Microsoft withdraws patch after botched security update ... Windows 7 users installing the update saw error messages on rebooting, with a recommendation to run chkdsk. Others reported the infamous blue screen of death or a recommendation to boot from the system disk. ... This sort of thing has happened before... Where entire businesses lose all their desktop IT for the sake of that one unexpected 'update'... 'Automatic' updates: Damned if you do, damned if you don't... Any system that minimizes the need for any updates has got to be better than the present risk of crash and burn each month... IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1356552 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1357874 - Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 20:21:48 UTC Can you trust I.T workers in "secure" industries? German Tax Office raids "A total of five German states clubbed together to buy the CD for â‚¬4 million from an anonymous informant." Hope tax was paid on that! ID: 1357874 ·

ML1 Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20	Message 1359854 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 14:38:07 UTC Last modified: 22 Apr 2013, 14:38:38 UTC There is a rather interesting mix of people and companies 'for' and 'against' this "snoopers charter without bounds" legislation: Cispa bill on cyber security passed by the US House The US House of Representatives has passed the controversial Cyber Information Sharing and Protection Act. Cispa is designed to help combat cyberthreats by making it easier for law enforcers to get at web data. This is the second time Cispa has been passed by the House. Senators threw out the first draft, saying it did not do enough to protect privacy. Cispa could fail again in the Senate after threats from President Obama to veto it over privacy concerns. ... All for your own good? Really?! All in the land of the free? IT is what we make it, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) ID: 1359854 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1359863 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:11:46 UTC I was wondering how much longer medical records would take till they showd up in the cloud who thought that 1 up. "the cloud" 1984 here we come he wasn't that far rong with the time 2013 Anything that man can design man can crack when will they learn no system is uncrackable ID: 1359863 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1359872 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:27:17 UTC - in response to Message 1359854. & with everything being centralised here in the UK, what makes you think we're any freer? ID: 1359872 ·

James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54	Message 1359874 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:30:59 UTC - in response to Message 1359863. Last modified: 22 Apr 2013, 15:31:38 UTC I was wondering how much longer medical records would take till they showd up in the cloud who thought that 1 up. "the cloud" 1984 here we come he wasn't that far rong with the time 2013 Anything that man can design man can crack when will they learn no system is uncrackable Up untill a few months ago I felt the same way. But I read an article in a science magazine about codes and cyphers. Since they have been used it was back and forth between the coders and the code breakers. But this article stated that the pendulum is swinging toward the code makers. And computers are the reason. They also tout the quantom computer as being unbreakable. Im not up quantom mechanics but it seems if you build a more powerfull one it should break a less powerful one. There was a project that sent work units of German WW2 transmissions to be decoded. I dont know if they still do though. But even with all the computers working on them some have still not been decoded. [/quote] Old James ID: 1359874 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1359878 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 1359874. Yep, Enigma@home is still going strong. ID: 1359878 ·

James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54	Message 1359880 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:35:15 UTC - in response to Message 1359878. Yep, Enigma@home is still going strong. Thanks I could'nt remember the name, DUH. [/quote] Old James ID: 1359880 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1359882 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 1359874. The quick way to stuff a Qantum computer just look at it !!! they will decode those messages it will just take time ID: 1359882 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1359883 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:39:07 UTC - in response to Message 1359882. And i'm not jokeing ID: 1359883 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1360383 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 21:42:34 UTC Can you really trust computers after this? Hacked AP tweet causes momentary losses of $136.5 billion "Only the computers react to something that serious disseminated in such a way. He also partially blames algorithmic trading programs that react to certain headlines." So wonder how much losses this headline will cause..... "Obama blown to bits & 50% of America rejoices" ID: 1360383 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1360386 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 21:49:26 UTC - in response to Message 1360383. Can you really trust computers after this? Yes. They did exactly what the idiots told them to do. None of them failed to do as instructed. Why should there be any distrust of the machine if it did exactly what it was instructed to do? Programmers, the real weak link in IT. ID: 1360386 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1360396 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 22:04:41 UTC - in response to Message 1360386. Can you really trust computers after this? Yes. They did exactly what the idiots told them to do. None of them failed to do as instructed. Why should there be any distrust of the machine if it did exactly what it was instructed to do? Programmers, the real weak link in IT. No, the weak link is those who take the results from a computer as gospel.... ..and apply them! ID: 1360396 ·

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