How do I run the stock CPU apps with optimized GPU apps?

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evilspoons Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 50 Credit: 5,933,127 RAC: 8,726	Message 1326170 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 21:02:08 UTC
Stupid noob question here, but I'm attempting to install the latest CUDA optimized apps and it seems to me that when I create an app_info.xml with the various pieces of information that come with the x41zc package, I will no longer have any app entries for the various stock CPU applications. Is there a solution for this problem, perhaps a "default" app_info.xml file that I could use? Or am I missing something entirely? ____________
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8943 Credit: 36,643,479 RAC: 59,971	Message 1326175 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 21:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 1326170.
quick answer is that it won't work. You should also install the CPU optimized apps. That will cut your run times down by about 50% ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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evilspoons Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 50 Credit: 5,933,127 RAC: 8,726	Message 1326176 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 21:19:17 UTC - in response to Message 1326175.
OK... fine by me. Where would I find them? Lunatics currently isn't available, and I don't know of any other CPU optimized apps for Windows. ____________
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mwijk68 Send message Joined: 8 Jan 13 Posts: 9 Credit: 594,262 RAC: 3	Message 1326203 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 21:44:04 UTC - in response to Message 1326176. Last modified: 9 Jan 2013, 22:05:12 UTC
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Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 19491 Credit: 21,148,499 RAC: 26,308	Message 1326208 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 21:56:40 UTC Last modified: 9 Jan 2013, 21:57:43 UTC
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mwijk68 Send message Joined: 8 Jan 13 Posts: 9 Credit: 594,262 RAC: 3	Message 1326213 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 22:03:10 UTC - in response to Message 1326208.
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Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 19491 Credit: 21,148,499 RAC: 26,308	Message 1326214 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 22:04:57 UTC - in response to Message 1326213.
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evilspoons Send message Joined: 30 Jul 99 Posts: 50 Credit: 5,933,127 RAC: 8,726	Message 1326219 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 22:15:13 UTC
So I guess the story right now is that there AREN'T any optimized CPU apps available thanks to the Lunatics legal business? ____________
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mwijk68 Send message Joined: 8 Jan 13 Posts: 9 Credit: 594,262 RAC: 3	Message 1326220 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 22:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 1326214.
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Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 19491 Credit: 21,148,499 RAC: 26,308	Message 1326221 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 22:16:36 UTC - in response to Message 1326219.
So I guess the story right now is that there AREN'T any optimized CPU apps available thanks to the Lunatics legal business? It has nothing to do with Lunatics. Its a GPL issue and we are working on it. ____________
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Mark Stevenson Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 11 Credit: 4,847,790 RAC: 27,469	Message 1326224 - Posted: 9 Jan 2013, 22:48:41 UTC
just wait till theve sorted the probs like everyone else doing that could wreck it for everyone
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HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,778,909 RAC: 77,952	Message 1326378 - Posted: 10 Jan 2013, 16:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 1326170.
Stupid noob question here, but I'm attempting to install the latest CUDA optimized apps and it seems to me that when I create an app_info.xml with the various pieces of information that come with the x41zc package, I will no longer have any app entries for the various stock CPU applications. Is there a solution for this problem, perhaps a "default" app_info.xml file that I could use? Or am I missing something entirely? You can run stock CPU apps using an app_info.xml. It just falls into the "not advised" category. One issue is that the stock apps will no longer get updated from the server.</disclaimer> You would just need to add the CPU info to the current app_info.xml you have. Here is a stripped down example displaying CPU & GPU info in an app_info.xml. <app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>stock_cpu_app.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>stock_cpu_app.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cudart32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cufft32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>1</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info> ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
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Lee Gresham Send message Joined: 12 Aug 03 Posts: 110 Credit: 69,941,908 RAC: 117,485	Message 1327829 - Posted: 16 Jan 2013, 6:31:57 UTC - in response to Message 1326378.
You can run stock CPU apps using an app_info.xml. It just falls into the "not advised" category. One issue is that the stock apps will no longer get updated from the server.</disclaimer> I also noticed there was no cpu app specified in the mbcuda.aistub file for cuda 4.2. I'm running seti 6.10.60. Can I leave the AK_v8b2_win_x64_SSE3.exe and the appropriate entries in app_info from Lunatics_Win64_v0.40 and continue using the optimized cpu tasks and also are you saying that with the x41zc I won't receive any cpu apps from the seti server? ____________ Delta-V
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Stupid noob question here, but I'm attempting to install the latest CUDA optimized apps and it seems to me that when I create an app_info.xml with the various pieces of information that come with the x41zc package, I will no longer have any app entries for the various stock CPU applications.

Is there a solution for this problem, perhaps a "default" app_info.xml file that I could use? Or am I missing something entirely?
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quick answer is that it won't work. You should also install the CPU optimized apps. That will cut your run times down by about 50%
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OK... fine by me. Where would I find them? Lunatics currently isn't available, and I don't know of any other CPU optimized apps for Windows.
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So I guess the story right now is that there AREN'T any optimized CPU apps available thanks to the Lunatics legal business?
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So I guess the story right now is that there AREN'T any optimized CPU apps available thanks to the Lunatics legal business?

It has nothing to do with Lunatics.
Its a GPL issue and we are working on it.

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Stupid noob question here, but I'm attempting to install the latest CUDA optimized apps and it seems to me that when I create an app_info.xml with the various pieces of information that come with the x41zc package, I will no longer have any app entries for the various stock CPU applications.

Is there a solution for this problem, perhaps a "default" app_info.xml file that I could use? Or am I missing something entirely?

You can run stock CPU apps using an app_info.xml. It just falls into the "not advised" category. One issue is that the stock apps will no longer get updated from the server.</disclaimer>

You would just need to add the CPU info to the current app_info.xml you have. Here is a stripped down example displaying CPU & GPU info in an app_info.xml.

<app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>stock_cpu_app.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>stock_cpu_app.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cudart32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cufft32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>1</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info>

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You can run stock CPU apps using an app_info.xml. It just falls into the "not advised" category. One issue is that the stock apps will no longer get updated from the server.</disclaimer>

I also noticed there was no cpu app specified in the mbcuda.aistub file for cuda 4.2. I'm running seti 6.10.60. Can I leave the AK_v8b2_win_x64_SSE3.exe and the appropriate entries in app_info from Lunatics_Win64_v0.40 and continue using the optimized cpu tasks and also are you saying that with the x41zc I won't receive any cpu apps from the seti server?
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