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Message 1347990 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 6:19:41 UTC

It is if you are lazy.
I'm looking forward to some higher numbers coming round as I will be able to swamp the thread with lots of pictures of my own, lots an lots of them....
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Message 1348042 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 12:07:12 UTC

The Mods did not want to be killjoys on the count thread, But we have had a number of redX's complaing about copyrighted posts. So one of the Mods contacted a site and asked them directly about using them. The response we got back was if you use them you must pay for the right.

We kicked it up to Fred to ask the legal department at UC Berkely what the score is. He kicked it up to Eric. In the meantime we were told to hide all copyrighted pics until we hear some feedback. That was Saturday night.

As of yet we have no word, as would be expected on the weekend.


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Message 1348058 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 13:16:46 UTC

Thanks for the heads up James. That seems a perfectly sensible way to proceed to me, and exactly what I would do. Copyrighted pics either need the agreement of the originator as in "By courtesy of" or "With permission from" or "Copyright Acknowledged" and may involve payment or may not. It is not exactly rocket science is it?

I sometimes think that some picnics are a sandwich short ...





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Message 1348170 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 18:26:37 UTC

A number of artists will allow free linkage, provided you place their required message alongside the image, so they may require the simple acknowledgement that Chris describe, or they may require the whole page, with all the purchase details etc. -it is their property we are viewing, and its is their source of income, it is up to them.
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Message 1348175 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 18:30:57 UTC

What is that thing in the Beets pic anyway?!
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Message 1348211 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 19:38:42 UTC - in response to Message 1348175.

What is that thing in the Beets pic anyway?!

I'll tell you when I declare the winner. To say now might influence the caption writers.

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Message 1348222 - Posted: 18 Mar 2013, 19:51:56 UTC - in response to Message 1348211.

What is that thing in the Beets pic anyway?!

I'll tell you when I declare the winner. To say now might influence the caption writers.



Fair enough :)
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Message 1348329 - Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 2:36:22 UTC

So my guess the symbol for metallic tasting Jelly Bellies was right out ;)
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Message 1348375 - Posted: 19 Mar 2013, 5:24:34 UTC

Ang, we have seen this pic before, care to post another?
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Message 1348994 - Posted: 21 Mar 2013, 6:53:31 UTC

Why does the count to thread say 19 a?
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Message 1348999 - Posted: 21 Mar 2013, 7:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 1348994.
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Why does the count to thread say 19 a?


Have a look at the early posts, all possible copyright pictures were removed and the thread restarted with an "a".
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Message 1349040 - Posted: 21 Mar 2013, 11:05:57 UTC - in response to Message 1348999.

Why does the count to thread say 19 a?


Have a look at the early posts, all possible copyright pictures were removed and the thread restarted with an "a".


Oh, ok, thanx Bernie:)
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Message 1349552 - Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 19:02:26 UTC
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We have had some questions on the rules here that havent followed the thread in some time now.

So I went back to the 169 page of this thread and worked my way forward. This is the first complete list I have found. There may be earlier ones but Its hard scroling thru 1000's of posts.

here is what I found at page #50 TLPTPW# 93 Message # 921488 dated 26 July 2009.

The Last Person To Post Thread, general rules:
1. Winner of the last thread starts the new one.
2. Chooses a number to be the post declared the next winner and records it somehow. (yellow sticky, etc.)
3. Everyone has fun posting while the target number of posts is reached.
4. When the target is reached, rinse and repeat.

Supplemental rules:
1. Double posting (the same poster posting two or more posts in succession) is frowned upon.
2. Posting of larger pics is discouraged (Modem users do still exists, and these threads can get quite long.)
3. The rest of the post rules listed to the left of your post box are all enforced.

I found one referance to double posting at page #53 message#885632 dated 15 April 2009 in TLPTPW#83- Hey, I thought if you post twice in a row you loose?

FYI the first game I came across was from page#120 dated 23 July, 2006.
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Message 1349718 - Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 8:49:06 UTC

It has also been mostly agreed that we voluntarily keep the number below 500. This shortens the load time and avoids it dragging on for too long and getting boring. We should also say obviously copyrighted photoes will be removed.

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Message 1349744 - Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 10:25:00 UTC - in response to Message 1349718.

It has also been mostly agreed that we voluntarily keep the number below 500. This shortens the load time and avoids it dragging on for too long and getting boring. We should also say obviously copyrighted photoes will be removed.


In my search for thr rules I also came across hidden copyrighted cartoons from July 2006 on page #124. It just wasnt one or two posts hidden it was entire threads being hidden. So it seems like an ongoing issue from time to time.

Also Chris you were the first to start a version of a pun thread.

I would say if anyone wants to see how wild the boards were back in the early days to go back to page 169 wich is in 2006 and work your way forward. I have to warn you though that a lot of threads are hidden and most have no title,they are marked closed . You have no idea what they are untill you go in.

But you will see a lot of the old posters are still posting.
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Message 1349779 - Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 13:25:44 UTC

Will the winner of this edtion of LPTPW Please post the rules at the start of the next game and tell the next person to win do to the same. I will PM the onwer of this version to please tell the next winner to also have them post the rules.

We have to many new people who dont know what the rules are.
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Message 1349798 - Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 15:12:36 UTC

As to those rules, it seems over time as if we have allowed two posts in a row by the same poster if there has been in outage in the interim. I'm making the suggestion that two posts in a row isn't reason for moderator action but an instruction to the person with the secret number that the second post in a row can't be the winning post.

I'd also like to know if anyone objects to a change in #2 to also allow a "time of last post" to be chosen instead of a number. For some they can have limited hours to access the boards and being able to be in a window they can be online to declare a winner may be helpful. I think this has been done ad hoc once or twice.

As to the 500 number, that is fine for now. But back in the past there were times that 500 might have been two days. I'm thinking the suggestion should be pick a number based on recent activity to the thread, say about two weeks or so in the future.

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Message 1349810 - Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 16:15:28 UTC
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You make excellent points Gary. Lets say nobody makes a post for 7 hours I can see no reason why the same poster should not be able to post twice in a row.

When I first started on the boards in late 09 some games were well over 1500 posts.

I did a few 500 games and I know Angela did a timed one.

The rules I posted might well be outdated. I stopped looking at page 48 game#98. I started at 169 and worked back till I found them. 5 hours worth of looking so I decided I was done.

So this is the place for you players to either modify the rules I posted or take them as is. But they should be posted so anyone can play. Other wise dont hit the redx to complain if you have not posted any rules.
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Message 1349816 - Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 16:54:33 UTC - in response to Message 1349798.
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As to those rules, it seems over time as if we have allowed two posts in a row by the same poster if there has been in outage in the interim. I'm making the suggestion that two posts in a row isn't reason for moderator action but an instruction to the person with the secret number that the second post in a row can't be the winning post.

I'd also like to know if anyone objects to a change in #2 to also allow a "time of last post" to be chosen instead of a number. For some they can have limited hours to access the boards and being able to be in a window they can be online to declare a winner may be helpful. I think this has been done ad hoc once or twice.

As to the 500 number, that is fine for now. But back in the past there were times that 500 might have been two days. I'm thinking the suggestion should be pick a number based on recent activity to the thread, say about two weeks or so in the future.

I could even see a hybrid of that idea. The winner will be the Nth post that is made after 00:00:01 UTC on date xx/yy. Or something like that.

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And of course, the person who started it keeps N and xx/yy secret just as she/he now keeps the number secret.
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Message 1349818 - Posted: 23 Mar 2013, 16:59:50 UTC

I have another suggestion:

Put the rules of all the Cafe games in one post and make it sticky so newcomers can find it. Lock it, referring comments to this discussion thread. If we agree to alter the rules of a game, a mod can change the rules post.

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