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Message 1603479 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 7:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 1603475.  
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"The following statement was issued on 19 November 2014 by the Executive Committee of the American Astronomical Society on behalf of the AAS Council:...........etc. etc.

Methinks it would have been equally valid to have posted that in the "Political Correctness" thread.... It reads like an "insert company name here" pro forma downloadable from the web

Women CAN do anything a man can do (no argument from me there), drive monster trucks on mining sites, fly commercial airliners, fighter jets and space shuttles, captain vessels of aircraft carrier size, contribute massively to scientific advancement, be hard hitting investigative journalists reporting from war zones, design and repair complex electronic equipment, run major companies, in fact any job that requires physical stamina, mental stamina and intelligence. All this, yet as soon as a man appears on the scene, they turn into delicate, cowering, simpering vestal virgins who require special protection and reassurance in case he might "offend" them.

It's a conundrum I have yet to find the answer to.

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Think about it.

(edit) and to your further post - you think two people is a mob?
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Message 1603484 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 7:34:30 UTC - in response to Message 1603479.  
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Think about it.

I have, long and often.
When I was growing up, learning how to deal with minor "offence" without getting your knickers twisted was considered part of the maturing process.

Edit:Which is why I cannot understand all the kerfuffle over an admittedly wrong choice of attire. FFS, it was only a shirt !! If it was a T shirt with something like "Show Your T*ts" written on it. It would be easier to understand, even I would consider that over the top.

(edit) and to your further post - you think two people is a mob?

Read it again. I said "The mob was forming".
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Message 1603487 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 7:44:08 UTC

Shirt With Tattoo Art. Super Cool Broheim and Broheimettes.

Dude getting All Crybaby with Apology, Geez 'O Flip, what A Sad Sad Display.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1603490 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 7:50:30 UTC - in response to Message 1603479.  

"The following statement was issued on 19 November 2014 by the Executive Committee of the American Astronomical Society on behalf of the AAS Council:...........etc. etc.

Methinks it would have been equally valid to have posted that in the "Political Correctness" thread.... It reads like an "insert company name here" pro forma downloadable from the web

Women CAN do anything a man can do (no argument from me there), drive monster trucks on mining sites, fly commercial airliners, fighter jets and space shuttles, captain vessels of aircraft carrier size, contribute massively to scientific advancement, be hard hitting investigative journalists reporting from war zones, design and repair complex electronic equipment, run major companies, in fact any job that requires physical stamina, mental stamina and intelligence. All this, yet as soon as a man appears on the scene, they turn into delicate, cowering, simpering vestal virgins who require special protection and reassurance in case he might "offend" them.

It's a conundrum I have yet to find the answer to.

T.A.

Think about it.

(edit) and to your further post - you think two people is a mob?

I read a study not so long that showed men tended to feel outnumbered by women even when the men are in a clear majority. They also tend to overestimate how much speaking time women get during debates. I saw this sort of behaviour just recently when a man on facebook posted a list of the astrophysics faculty at Oxford University to support his assertion that there are enough women in the subject. It seems he thought that between 20% and 30% female was enough to constitute parity. So I am quite sure that two females diagreeing with TA could well constitute a mob in his eyes. Remember, we must be seen (and make every effort to look pleasing) but if we try to be heard then we are apparently "delicate, cowering, simpering vestal virgins who require special protection and reassurance".
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Message 1603491 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 7:51:54 UTC - in response to Message 1603487.  
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Shirt With Tattoo Art. Super Cool Broheim and Broheimettes.

Dude getting All Crybaby with Apology, Geez 'O Flip, what A Sad Sad Display.

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Yes, because crying is considered feminine and therefore obviously a bad thing.
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Message 1603492 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 7:51:57 UTC

@Terror Australis I don't know if you have ever feared that you would be killed by your partner but I know plenty of women who did.

One in three women have experienced physical or sexual violence violence from partner
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Message 1603500 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 8:08:50 UTC - in response to Message 1603492.  
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@Terror Australis I don't know if you have ever feared that you would be killed by your partner but I know plenty of women who did.

One in three women have experienced physical or sexual violence violence from partner

Indeed I have. My first wife was bi-polar and there was one occasion where she attacked me with a knife and I literally had to fight for my life. There were many nights when I went to bed wondering if I'd wake up in the morning.

She later admitted that she used to get a carving knife and draw patterns on my chest with it while I was asleep, knowing I was completely at her mercy and all she had to do was push down and I'd be dead.

She also said to me that because she was a registered mental patient, that if she killed me, the worst she could expect was a few years in an Asylum until she could convince the "Shrinks" she was cured. Then she would be released scot free.

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Message 1603530 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 10:36:20 UTC

If that happened to me i'd be out the door in a trice.

Can't understand people who stay with violent partners.
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Message 1603548 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 11:03:39 UTC - in response to Message 1603530.  
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If that happened to me i'd be out the door in a trice.

Can't understand people who stay with violent partners.

You've got to be there for your kids....

While I was pretty sure she would not have hurt them (despite her illness shewas a very good mother), someone still had to be around for when the wheels finally fell off.

What more can I say ?

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Message 1603689 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 19:27:26 UTC - in response to Message 1603500.  

@Terror Australis I don't know if you have ever feared that you would be killed by your partner but I know plenty of women who did.

One in three women have experienced physical or sexual violence violence from partner

Indeed I have. My first wife was bi-polar and there was one occasion where she attacked me with a knife and I literally had to fight for my life. There were many nights when I went to bed wondering if I'd wake up in the morning.

She later admitted that she used to get a carving knife and draw patterns on my chest with it while I was asleep, knowing I was completely at her mercy and all she had to do was push down and I'd be dead.

She also said to me that because she was a registered mental patient, that if she killed me, the worst she could expect was a few years in an Asylum until she could convince the "Shrinks" she was cured. Then she would be released scot free.

T.A.

I am not sure that you can equate what is obviously a severe mental illness with the systemic abuse of women in relationships due to perceptions of how women and men should behave.

A schizophrenic man stabbed to death my friends mother in law because he was off his meds. He did not do this because of sexism. He did it because he was crazy and not been treated properly.

These things are not what Hev is talking about.
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Message 1603940 - Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 6:34:02 UTC

Neil de Grasse Tyson totally gets it.

Neil deGrasse Tyson stopped his lecture to encourage this little girl to become a scientist

Girls in particular have tend to have their natural scientific curiosity stifled from a young age.
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Message 1603952 - Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 7:31:09 UTC - in response to Message 1603689.  
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@Terror Australis I don't know if you have ever feared that you would be killed by your partner but I know plenty of women who did.

One in three women have experienced physical or sexual violence violence from partner

Indeed I have. My first wife was bi-polar and there was one occasion where she attacked me with a knife and I literally had to fight for my life. There were many nights when I went to bed wondering if I'd wake up in the morning.......
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I am not sure that you can equate what is obviously a severe mental illness with the systemic abuse of women in relationships due to perceptions of how women and men should behave.

A schizophrenic man stabbed to death my friends mother in law because he was off his meds. He did not do this because of sexism. He did it because he was crazy and not been treated properly.

These things are not what Hev is talking about.

Humble apologies Es, seeing as the question did not contain any riders, being a mere male, I took it at face value and did not peel down through the layers to see what Hev was "really" talking about.

I defer to your greater expertise at peeling onions.

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Message 1604049 - Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 14:56:10 UTC - in response to Message 1604034.  
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TA, you may have untreated PTSD from the past because of a previous relationship, perhaps that colours you views?

Well Chris, you're not the first person to suggest I "think differently" :D
I'm not saying you're totally incorrect, it was a very stressful 15 years and there must be bruises somewhere, but there is no way I would compare myself to those who served in battle zones or Emergency Services personnel

My own view is that, I think a lot more realistically than most of those in the modern world. The world is not and never has been a perfect place for anybody and those who complain about it not being "perfect" are blaming others for their own failings. Which is why single minded extremists for any cause cheese me right off, no-one is ever 100% right or 100% wrong.

The man was a well known eccentric that just didn't think in the euphoria of the moment, and surrounded by monkey level media types. But the fall out from it all has been totally out of order.

And THAT is what I have been saying all along !!!!!

Thankyou for "dropping in".

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Message 1604090 - Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 16:40:44 UTC - in response to Message 1604034.  

(Very quick post in and out, then gone, but it needs to be said)

So that people know where I stand, I support the views of Es99 and Hev. My Niece did a BSc, MRes, and a PhD in research in medical science, she has found some of it in the UK, but it may be more rife across the pond?

Harden up? Are you aware that the women who dared to complain about the shirt are getting death threats now?

The very fact that no one at any point thought to tell him before he went on TV that the shirt wasn't the best way to represent Science, says an awful lot about the culture in science research.

TA, you may have untreated PTSD from the past because of a previous relationship, perhaps that colours you views? The man was a well known eccentric that just didn't think in the euphoria of the moment, and surrounded by monkey level media types. But the fall out from it all has been totally out of order.

Actually, the "fallout" against the "fallout" has been way worse than the original complaints, which were that the shirt was inappropriate attire for a global scientific event that should be inclusive to everyone. The man apologised, that should have been the end of it and seemed a satisfactory outcome to all the female scientists who took issue with it.

However, those scientists are now receiving death threats, the media has also gone mad at them calling it a witch hunt against Dt. Taylor. I don't see how it was a witch hunt as most complaints were not particularly directed at him, but at an establishment that didn't see anything wrong with the shirt. There is a huge outcry against "evil feminists" who have ruined this poor mans moment of glory etc. etc.

It is quite clear which side is over reacting. The fact that I am even still having to explain this issue long after Dr. Taylor himself got it and and apologised is absurd.

The shirt was inappropriate, the scientist realised this and apologised. End of story. The only people now being vilified and witch hunted are the women that dared speak up. Which says it all really and does pretty much prove how sexist the world still is.
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Message 1604631 - Posted: 23 Nov 2014, 22:08:00 UTC

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/11/23/do-licensing-rulesputadultentertainersatrisk.html
“This leads to second-class citizenship,” she said, also calling it “institutional slut shaming.”

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Message 1605082 - Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 1:50:25 UTC

OK, here's something that's the total opposite of the shirt incident.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-style/well-thats-one-way-to-get-noticed-on-the-red-carpet/story-fnk82m4n-1227133207369

Now go for it.

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Message 1605126 - Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 3:57:24 UTC

Well Bill Cosby may have avoided prosecution due to rather silly statute of limitations, but with TV and live shows being cancelled he may wind up being poorer as a class-action lawsuit is set to take shape.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/bill-cosby-may-face-a-class-action-lawsuit-as-several-of-his-alleged-victims-rally-together/story-fnk822dn-1227133839261

It has been alleged that Cosby, over a span of several decades, drugged and raped numerous women.

He's currently the last of several high profile celebrities around the world that have been outed over sexual abuse scandals over the last few years.
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Message 1605220 - Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 8:20:23 UTC - in response to Message 1605082.  

OK, here's something that's the total opposite of the shirt incident.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-style/well-thats-one-way-to-get-noticed-on-the-red-carpet/story-fnk82m4n-1227133207369

Now go for it.

Cheers.

Not that I want to shame her or anything, but as a singer, do you really want to be known for your body, rather than your music?
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Message 1605228 - Posted: 25 Nov 2014, 8:35:17 UTC - in response to Message 1605220.  

OK, here's something that's the total opposite of the shirt incident.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-style/well-thats-one-way-to-get-noticed-on-the-red-carpet/story-fnk82m4n-1227133207369

Now go for it.

Cheers.

Not that I want to shame her or anything, but as a singer, do you really want to be known for your body, rather than your music?


No. You can as well be a model then, saves the voice.
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