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Message 1589436 - Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 21:10:06 UTC - in response to Message 1589376.  

How easy it is to claim "she did it as a publicity stunt" rather than to examine the horrific and systemic nature of this abuse.

How easy is it to set up a publicity stunt?

Was there a threat? Something was sent, by persons unknown to the press. That does not mean that the authorities have not determined a lot more information about the sender.

Was it credible? Sent to a laundry list, such things are generally not credible and are bluster.

Is demanding more protection than given the Governor reasonable? No, this part smells like a set up publicity stunt to bring much wider press coverage than giving the talk would have. Remember her PII is all over the net, so anyone who actually wants to due her harm easily can find her and they don't need to wait for her to show up at a talk. Another reason that it smells like a publicity stunt.

None of the above changes the abuse in games, only speaks to her personally, e.g. the crooked science thread. Go ahead an examine the abuse all you wish. AFIK no one here has claimed it does not exist, that is isn't pervasive, needs to stop, etc.
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Message 1589492 - Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 23:12:57 UTC

a long running hate campaign


Yep, I know How 'it' Feels.

But, I HuWoManed Up and take 'it' and 'Love' 'it'.

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Message 1589663 - Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 9:34:33 UTC - in response to Message 1589436.  

Is demanding more protection than given the Governor reasonable?

I think such a demand is very reasonable if you consider the threat made references to a shooting that killed 14 women and harmed another 14 people at a university in Canada. That reference alone is scary enough and also immediately exposes the misogyny on part of the person making the threat. How often does the governor get threats that if he speaks somewhere some nutjob will not only target him, but specifically target an entire university full of students?
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Message 1589739 - Posted: 21 Oct 2014, 13:46:00 UTC - in response to Message 1589663.  

Is demanding more protection than given the Governor reasonable?

I think such a demand is very reasonable if you consider the threat made references to a shooting that killed 14 women and harmed another 14 people at a university in Canada. That reference alone is scary enough and also immediately exposes the misogyny on part of the person making the threat. How often does the governor get threats that if he speaks somewhere some nutjob will not only target him, but specifically target an entire university full of students?

I'm sure daily he gets threats to annihilate him, his family, the legislature, and numerous bureaucrats. It goes with being a public figure.

Oh, you aren't likely to find any public official that releases information on threats received as the idiots who do it would just make it a competition to get a world record.
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Message 1590195 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 15:48:55 UTC

Anther victim of gamergate: I Was Forced From My Home and Am Living In Constant Fear Because of Relentless Death Threats From Male Gamers

Of course there is always someone who will claim its a publicity stunt. I think I know exactly where to place people like that in this debate.
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Message 1590270 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 18:41:04 UTC - in response to Message 1590195.  
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Anther victim of gamergate: I Was Forced From My Home and Am Living In Constant Fear Because of Relentless Death Threats From Male Gamers

Of course there is always someone who will claim its a publicity stunt. I think I know exactly where to place people like that in this debate.



Why in God's name do women even consider to busy themselves with people like that? Shouldn't she know better? Shouldn't all women know better? Why does she get those death threats? Why haven't I never gotten one from scum like that? I stay the Hell away from people like that!!

I am the Godzilla of bitches. I have a backbone of pure adamantium


She said it herself.... And those 'gamers' probably know she thinks that way about herself.

The further you go with people like that, the further they go to be the 'winner' or rather 'dominater'

Stay away from those people, you silly woman, I'd say.
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Message 1590272 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 18:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 1590270.  
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Anther victim of gamergate: I Was Forced From My Home and Am Living In Constant Fear Because of Relentless Death Threats From Male Gamers

Of course there is always someone who will claim its a publicity stunt. I think I know exactly where to place people like that in this debate.



Why in God's name do women even consider to busy themselves with people like that? Shouldn't she know better? Shouldn't all women know better? Why does she get those death threats? Why haven't I never gotten one from scum like that? I stay the Hell away from people like that!!

I am the Godzilla of bitches. I have a backbone of pure adamantium


She said it herself.... And those 'gamers' probably know she thinks that way about herself.

The further you go with people like that, the further they go to be the 'winner' or rather 'dominater'

Stay away from those people, you silly woman, I'd say.

Wow, Julie. I am so disappointed to hear you say this.

Of course you don't get these threats as long as you remember your place and stay in the roles you are supposed to stay in.

I think I've already pointed out that I've been on the receiving end of threats here, on this very forum. Are you suggesting that I should have just quit and let the boys keep their little play room? If I had I can assure you 100% that you wouldn't enjoy posting here as much as you do. I know you know some of the things that have been messaged to the ladies her on seti by a minority of guys. Its pretty unpleasant and disgusting. Well it wasn't so long ago that those things were posted publicly to any ladies that dared post here on seti. It wasn't so long ago that any lady who dared complain was told to "stay away from these people, you silly woman". Its thanks to people like me that you don't have to put up with that crap here on seti any more.

You're welcome.

Women should be allowed to design and make video games without getting death threats. That you somehow think she should have quit her job and stayed quiet to avoid the threats is quite shameful.

Women should be allowed to post safely on a science based computing forum such as seti without suffering the same fate.
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Message 1590276 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 18:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 1590272.  

Anther victim of gamergate: I Was Forced From My Home and Am Living In Constant Fear Because of Relentless Death Threats From Male Gamers

Of course there is always someone who will claim its a publicity stunt. I think I know exactly where to place people like that in this debate.



Why in God's name do women even consider to busy themselves with people like that? Shouldn't she know better? Shouldn't all women know better? Why does she get those death threats? Why haven't I never gotten one from scum like that? I stay the Hell away from people like that!!

I am the Godzilla of bitches. I have a backbone of pure adamantium


She said it herself.... And those 'gamers' probably know she thinks that way about herself.

The further you go with people like that, the further they go to be the 'winner' or rather 'dominater'

Stay away from those people, you silly woman, I'd say.

Wow, Julie. I am so disappointed to hear you say this.

Of course you don't get these threats as long as you remember your place and stay in the roles you are supposed to stay in.

I think I've already pointed out that I've been on the receiving end of threats here, on this very forum. Are you suggesting that I should have just quit and let the boys keep their little play room? If I had I can assure you 100% that you wouldn't enjoy posting here as much as you do. I know you know some of the things that have been messaged to the ladies her on seti by a minority of guys. Its pretty unpleasant and disgusting. Well it wasn't so long ago that those things were posted publicly to any ladies that dared post here on seti. It wasn't so long ago that any lady who dared complain was told to "stay away from these people, you silly woman". Its thanks to people like me that you don't have to put up with that crap here on seti any more.

You're welcome.

Women should be allowed to design and make video games without getting death threats. That you somehow think she should have quit her job and stayed quiet to avoid the threats is quite shameful.

Women should be allowed to post safely on a science based computing forum such as seti without suffering the same fate.



I was a SQUATTER Esmé, I roamed the street at night all alone with my dog, NOBODY bothered me. I even slept on the streets of Paris, alone. I never had to block ANYONE here at Seti and I don't think I have to thank you for that Es, to be honest. I've been here since 2009, I've seen things happen and change here, I'm not some dumb girl Esmé. The woman in the article just attracts people like that is what I think.
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Message 1590292 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:19:31 UTC - in response to Message 1590276.  

The woman in the article just attracts people like that is what I think.

She attracts them by the virtue of being a female game developer who uses twitter. Thats all it takes to get this kind of vile treatment. If she wants to avoid people like that, its like Es said, she would have to keep quiet, not be allowed to speak out.

I think its extremely brave of her to stand up to trolls like that. Seriously, F those guys who ruin gaming with their toxic trolling behavior. F them for wanting to make gaming some kind of male only space that exclusively caters to their extremely one sided idea of 'fun games'. But most importantly, F them for acting like such horrible human beings.
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Message 1590293 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 1590292.  

The woman in the article just attracts people like that is what I think.

She attracts them by the virtue of being a female game developer who uses twitter. Thats all it takes to get this kind of vile treatment. If she wants to avoid people like that, its like Es said, she would have to keep quiet, not be allowed to speak out.

I think its extremely brave of her to stand up to trolls like that. Seriously, F those guys who ruin gaming with their toxic trolling behavior. F them for wanting to make gaming some kind of male only space that exclusively caters to their extremely one sided idea of 'fun games'. But most importantly, F them for acting like such horrible human beings.

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Message 1590294 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:22:34 UTC - in response to Message 1590292.  

The woman in the article just attracts people like that is what I think.

She attracts them by the virtue of being a female game developer who uses twitter. Thats all it takes to get this kind of vile treatment. If she wants to avoid people like that, its like Es said, she would have to keep quiet, not be allowed to speak out.

I think its extremely brave of her to stand up to trolls like that. Seriously, F those guys who ruin gaming with their toxic trolling behavior. F them for wanting to make gaming some kind of male only space that exclusively caters to their extremely one sided idea of 'fun games'. But most importantly, F them for acting like such horrible human beings.


A +1! on the second paragraph. I damn well spoke out loud in my younger days, to cops and everyone who crossed my path:)
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Message 1590301 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:32:53 UTC - in response to Message 1590276.  

Anther victim of gamergate: I Was Forced From My Home and Am Living In Constant Fear Because of Relentless Death Threats From Male Gamers

Of course there is always someone who will claim its a publicity stunt. I think I know exactly where to place people like that in this debate.



Why in God's name do women even consider to busy themselves with people like that? Shouldn't she know better? Shouldn't all women know better? Why does she get those death threats? Why haven't I never gotten one from scum like that? I stay the Hell away from people like that!!

I am the Godzilla of bitches. I have a backbone of pure adamantium


She said it herself.... And those 'gamers' probably know she thinks that way about herself.

The further you go with people like that, the further they go to be the 'winner' or rather 'dominater'

Stay away from those people, you silly woman, I'd say.

Wow, Julie. I am so disappointed to hear you say this.

Of course you don't get these threats as long as you remember your place and stay in the roles you are supposed to stay in.

I think I've already pointed out that I've been on the receiving end of threats here, on this very forum. Are you suggesting that I should have just quit and let the boys keep their little play room? If I had I can assure you 100% that you wouldn't enjoy posting here as much as you do. I know you know some of the things that have been messaged to the ladies her on seti by a minority of guys. Its pretty unpleasant and disgusting. Well it wasn't so long ago that those things were posted publicly to any ladies that dared post here on seti. It wasn't so long ago that any lady who dared complain was told to "stay away from these people, you silly woman". Its thanks to people like me that you don't have to put up with that crap here on seti any more.

You're welcome.

Women should be allowed to design and make video games without getting death threats. That you somehow think she should have quit her job and stayed quiet to avoid the threats is quite shameful.

Women should be allowed to post safely on a science based computing forum such as seti without suffering the same fate.



I was a SQUATTER Esmé, I roamed the street at night all alone with my dog, NOBODY bothered me. I even slept on the streets of Paris, alone. I never had to block ANYONE here at Seti and I don't think I have to thank you for that Es, to be honest. I've been here since 2009, I've seen things happen and change here, I'm not some dumb girl Esmé. The woman in the article just attracts people like that is what I think.

RIGHT. You've been here since 2009 which is when things finally started to change. I am so glad that me "attracting people like that" by speaking out helped make your experience on seti so much better that mine was.

You can think what you want, Julie, and you can say what you want, and I bet you feel pretty safe right now and don't assume that someone is going to track down where you live and threaten your family because you are saying what you think. Which is what happened here on a regular basis before 2009.

So again. You're welcome. I am so glad you haven't had to block anyone on seti. I am so glad that you didn't have to go through what I did. I am so glad that what I went through wasn't for nothing.

I hope anyone who has daughters is supporting this woman 100% for trying to make life better for the next generation. I have a niece right now at university training to go into this field and I am genuinely worried for her. I am grateful to any woman who has the guts to stand up to this disgusting behaviour. We should be applauding her, not judging her.
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Message 1590304 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:37:18 UTC

Sorry Dull, but you have to be challenged on that. There is NOT a long running hate campaign against you. If you honestly and sincerely believe that there is, then I would strongly recommend that you complain officially to the Administrators. The simple truth is that because of the way that you choose to represent yourself via your posts, you are generally seen as a very irritating person. That is not against any forum rules that I know of, and if it were, 50% of posters would disappear, including me!

But your personal form of gobbledegook is wearing a bit thin and well past its sell by date. Your choice whether to carry on with it old son, but don't complain if you get sidelined, OK?


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Message 1590306 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:39:50 UTC - in response to Message 1590301.  

+1. There is also another side to this. What about the decent men out there that stand alongside decent women & won't allow that attitude to intrude on their working, social & personal lives?

I've received many threats, both at work & personally...

...they never amounted to a thing...

...because they never had the balls to carry them out, those that did...

...I'm still me & breathing :-)
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Message 1590307 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 1590301.  
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Anther victim of gamergate: I Was Forced From My Home and Am Living In Constant Fear Because of Relentless Death Threats From Male GamersOf course there is always someone who will claim its a publicity stunt. I think I know exactly where to place people like that in this debate.
Why in God's name do women even consider to busy themselves with people like that? Shouldn't she know better? Shouldn't all women know better? Why does she get those death threats? Why haven't I never gotten one from scum like that? I stay the Hell away from people like that!!
I am the Godzilla of bitches. I have a backbone of pure adamantium
She said it herself.... And those 'gamers' probably know she thinks that way about herself.The further you go with people like that, the further they go to be the 'winner' or rather 'dominater' Stay away from those people, you silly woman, I'd say.
Wow, Julie. I am so disappointed to hear you say this.Of course you don't get these threats as long as you remember your place and stay in the roles you are supposed to stay in.I think I've already pointed out that I've been on the receiving end of threats here, on this very forum. Are you suggesting that I should have just quit and let the boys keep their little play room? If I had I can assure you 100% that you wouldn't enjoy posting here as much as you do. I know you know some of the things that have been messaged to the ladies her on seti by a minority of guys. Its pretty unpleasant and disgusting. Well it wasn't so long ago that those things were posted publicly to any ladies that dared post here on seti. It wasn't so long ago that any lady who dared complain was told to "stay away from these people, you silly woman". Its thanks to people like me that you don't have to put up with that crap here on seti any more.You're welcome.Women should be allowed to design and make video games without getting death threats. That you somehow think she should have quit her job and stayed quiet to avoid the threats is quite shameful.Women should be allowed to post safely on a science based computing forum such as seti without suffering the same fate.
I was a SQUATTER Esmé, I roamed the street at night all alone with my dog, NOBODY bothered me. I even slept on the streets of Paris, alone. I never had to block ANYONE here at Seti and I don't think I have to thank you for that Es, to be honest. I've been here since 2009, I've seen things happen and change here, I'm not some dumb girl Esmé. The woman in the article just attracts people like that is what I think.
RIGHT. You've been here since 2009 which is when things finally started to change. I am so glad that me "attracting people like that" by speaking out helped make your experience on seti so much better that mine was.You can think what you want, Julie, and you can say what you want, and I bet you feel pretty safe right now and don't assume that someone is going to track down where you live and threaten your family because you are saying what you think. Which is what happened here on a regular basis before 2009.

So again. You're welcome. I am so glad you haven't had to block anyone on seti. I am so glad that you didn't have to go through what I did. I am so glad that what I went through wasn't for nothing.

I hope anyone who has daughters is supporting this woman 100% for trying to make life better for the next generation. I have a niece right now at university training to go into this field and I am genuinely worried for her. I am grateful to any woman who has the guts to stand up to this disgusting behaviour. We should be applauding her, not judging her.



I don't think you quite well understood my post Es. I've been in the lion's hole (Dutch saying) I've met the scum, but really, the SCUM of the earth, in REAL life, LIVE as they say on TV. I've seen people with guns and knives, do you think they came to me and threaten me, nope... And I was quite the figure in the squat scene, believe me. If I'd support this woman in front of Lisa, I would admit women are weak, and can't stand up against men, well, good news, YES, WE CAN! Mentally AND physically, but the mental part is our biggest asset.

cfr. the title of the article, very eye-catching, something Lisa would see instantly: I was forced... Nobody should force you to do anything girl! I'd say to her:)
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Message 1590310 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:43:53 UTC - in response to Message 1590307.  

Is that all men or just the scumbags who call themselves men?
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Message 1590314 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:49:28 UTC - in response to Message 1590310.  

Is that all men or just the scumbags who call themselves men?



Men who force themselves upon women.
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Message 1590315 - Posted: 22 Oct 2014, 19:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 1590314.  

Is that all men or just the scumbags who call themselves men?



Men who force themselves upon women.

Thanks for clarifying so a +1.
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