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Message 1563161 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 17:23:01 UTC - in response to Message 1563154.  

maybe proving that he's an MCP?
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Message 1563174 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 17:41:37 UTC - in response to Message 1563161.  

maybe proving that he's an MCP?

Well when I see him over in the "evil" thread justifying infanticide (which is extremely common in nature) then I'll believe otherwise.
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Message 1563176 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 17:50:19 UTC - in response to Message 1563174.  

Well as I've already stated several times, most men have their brains between their legs & to see that in the 21st century, many just do not see the damage done by their words or deeds...

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Message 1563230 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 18:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 1563154.  

Why is it easier to invent anti-rape nail polish than find a way to stop rapists?

Ask your God why he invented testosterone and had some brains swim in it.
http://www.webvet.com/main/2009/01/09/duck-mating-sex-lives-ducks

yes yes, and cats often eat their kittens.

What's your point?

Did you read the report. Having a penis causes rape. At least in birds.

I know you have no personal experience in having a brain swimming in testosterone, but I'm sure you are aware of how some chemicals, e.g. LSD, can affect thinking. Are you assuming testosterone has no effect?

You asked a silly question and got a real answer. I know it wasn't what you wanted to hear. You simply must realize that impulse control is never 100%. (Why do they put candy at the checkout?) Doesn't make it right, but it answers your question.
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Message 1563263 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 19:32:38 UTC - in response to Message 1563230.  

Why is it easier to invent anti-rape nail polish than find a way to stop rapists?

Ask your God why he invented testosterone and had some brains swim in it.
http://www.webvet.com/main/2009/01/09/duck-mating-sex-lives-ducks

yes yes, and cats often eat their kittens.

What's your point?

Did you read the report. Having a penis causes rape. At least in birds.

I know you have no personal experience in having a brain swimming in testosterone, but I'm sure you are aware of how some chemicals, e.g. LSD, can affect thinking. Are you assuming testosterone has no effect?

You asked a silly question and got a real answer. I know it wasn't what you wanted to hear. You simply must realize that impulse control is never 100%. (Why do they put candy at the checkout?) Doesn't make it right, but it answers your question.


I've never been a fan of sociobiology because it is particularly vulnerable to subjective bias.

Lets assume you are right and that all men can't help but rape. Then rather than putting the onus on woman to police them selves lets start treating men as the animals you seem to think they are. Men should not be allowed out without a chaperone.
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Message 1563293 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 20:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1563108.  
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Why is it easier to invent anti-rape nail polish than find a way to stop rapists?

You are asking why its hard to change the perception, attitude and behavior that flows from it. Its like asking why its hard for certain people not to be racists.

Reducing the problem of sexual assault is simply going to take decades before it has been reduced to an absolute minimum. Until then, stuff like this is most useful. Yeah, this is not going to end rape, but if it helps some women detect spiked drinks before they take a sip, I'd say its a win.
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Message 1563382 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 21:58:04 UTC - in response to Message 1563263.  
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Lets assume you are right and that all men can't help but rape.

All? Your word, not mine.

Then rather than putting the onus on woman to police them selves lets start treating men as the animals you seem to think they are. Men should not be allowed out without a chaperone.

Glad you are calling for that. It will work just as well as Islam where women can't be out alone.

If you want to realize the biology, then study why penis and vagina developed as opposed to the many other methods different animals - yes we are an animal - use. Tell me is rape even possible with some of the other methods? Take that as a big clue to the answer to your question. None of this makes it right, it only addresses why it exists and why it is impossible to 100% prevent.

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Message 1563395 - Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 22:10:15 UTC

So you don't think the nail varnish is a good idea, then how about this

Former judge says rape conviction rates will not improve until 'women stop getting so drunk'

Retired judge Mary Jane Mowat said it is an inevitable fact of being 'one person’s word against another' during rape trials
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Message 1563637 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 10:35:13 UTC

In stark contrast to the gruesome abuse listed in recent posts, but something that is still life disturbing and unequal in their community:


Push to ordain Mormon women leads to excommunication

... "You know, normally excommunication in our Church is for really grave sins like murder and child abuse," she says. "I was excommunicated for stating a fact, which is that men and women are not equal in our Church."...



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Message 1563791 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 15:51:58 UTC - in response to Message 1562917.  

Another disgusting news story here this morning. :-(

http://www.news.com.au/world/rotherham-police-council-ignored-child-abuse-reports-for-16-years-in-that-time-1400-children-were-raped/story-fndir2ev-1227038259377

FOR more than 16 years an English town has been home to a terrible secret: Hiding the systematic beating, rape and trafficking of some 1400 children.

Children were doused with petrol and threatened with being set alight. Guns were pointed at them. They were forced to watch other children being subjected to violent gang rapes.

Nobody cared.

Rotherham, in England’s north, is a city of 250,000 people. So how could it fail to protect so many children, many as young as 11, from being so ruthlessly exploited over such a long period?

I hope that all those involved get locked up and the keys thrown away.


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This is the work of pure evil! *shudder*


It doesn't help when one reads reports such as this: -

Police criticised

"The HMIC report said the force's public protection unit (PPU) had a cultural "disregard for victims"."

Which culture would that be? The culture of society or the culture of men?
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Message 1563896 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 18:07:31 UTC
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....The culture of society or the culture of men?

I am getting a bit peeved at the way this thread is going where even the "men" are sounding like Es in full cry.

I sincerely hope that these males that are going on about the "culture of men" "rape culture", testosterone is to blame for everything etc. etc. are not speaking from personal experience.

For the record, I have never raped a woman, abused a child, used a date rape drug or taken advantage of a woman who was too drunk to give coherent consent, and I resent in the strongest manner being lumped in the same bag as those who have !!!

To me, encouraging my daughter to wear drug detecting nail polish and not to get so drunk she doesn't have a clue what's happening to her is just plain simple common sense. I would give my son exactly the same sort of advice, i.e. Don't get too drunk and stay out of dark alleys.

If a man walks down a dark alley and get mugged, the first thing that would be said to him is WTF were you doing there.

In this less than perfect world the first person with responsibility for safety is the individual and the rule, whether male or female, is don't get into a situation you may not be able to get yourself out of. Simple, pure, common sense that applies to everyone.

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Message 1563902 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 18:14:47 UTC - in response to Message 1563896.  

....The culture of society or the culture of men?

I am getting a bit peeved at the way this thread is going where even the "men" are sounding like Es in full cry.

I sincerely hope that these males that are going on about the "culture of men" "rape culture", testosterone is to blame for everything etc. etc. are not speaking from personal experience.

For the record, I have never raped a woman, abused a child, used a date rape drug or taken advantage of a woman who was too drunk to give coherent consent and I resent in the strongest manner being lumped in the same bag as those who have !!!


Sorry T.A., I've have never done that either, but as seen on other threads, I have seen the results up close & dirty. I have worked with many men who...

...the less said about them the better. At the same time, it does boggle one's mind to see oneself as a decent male & seeing how those others treat women.
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Message 1563903 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 18:18:04 UTC
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In this less than perfect world the first person with responsibility for their safety is the individual and the rule, whether male or female, is don't get into a situation you may not be able to get yourself out of. Simple, pure, common sense that applies to everyone.


+1 Completely agree. It's just much easier for men to physically get out of a precarious situation imo
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Message 1563909 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 18:23:12 UTC - in response to Message 1563903.  

Disagree because there are too many cases like this: -

Detective jailed for raping mother in her own home

Personally, he should have got double the sentence, after all, the police are supposed to be there to protect us!
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Message 1563925 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 18:41:26 UTC - in response to Message 1563909.  
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Disagree because there are too many cases like this: -

Detective jailed for raping mother in her own home

Personally, he should have got double the sentence, after all, the police are supposed to be there to protect us!



What I mean is that men are much stronger than women and therefore it's much easier for them to physically get out of a hazardous situation, don't know what the above article has to do with my statement? (if you were replying to me that is)

It is a fact though that every individual is responsible for his or her own safety.
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Message 1563931 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 18:48:03 UTC - in response to Message 1563925.  

Sorry Julie, I should have taken my own advice & posted to thread instead.

In one respect have to agree with both you & T.A. However that link shows that common sense does not always prevail.

When one is safe & secure in their own home, what price common sense when that happens?
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Message 1564305 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 10:39:57 UTC

Nice local & national government we have in the UK...

Child abusers "brazen"

"They include Sonia Sharp, who ran Rotherham's children's services department from 2003 to 2008 and is now in charge of education services in the Australian state of Victoria."

Oh dear whatever next?

"The carer, who wished to remain anonymous, claimed staff were reluctant to intervene in some cases for fear of being classed as "racist"."

Time for "Political Correctness" to be buried once & for all!
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Message 1564952 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 14:45:38 UTC - in response to Message 1563896.  

....The culture of society or the culture of men?

I am getting a bit peeved at the way this thread is going where even the "men" are sounding like Es in full cry.

I sincerely hope that these males that are going on about the "culture of men" "rape culture", testosterone is to blame for everything etc. etc. are not speaking from personal experience.

For the record, I have never raped a woman, abused a child, used a date rape drug or taken advantage of a woman who was too drunk to give coherent consent, and I resent in the strongest manner being lumped in the same bag as those who have !!!

To me, encouraging my daughter to wear drug detecting nail polish and not to get so drunk she doesn't have a clue what's happening to her is just plain simple common sense. I would give my son exactly the same sort of advice, i.e. Don't get too drunk and stay out of dark alleys.

If a man walks down a dark alley and get mugged, the first thing that would be said to him is WTF were you doing there.

In this less than perfect world the first person with responsibility for safety is the individual and the rule, whether male or female, is don't get into a situation you may not be able to get yourself out of. Simple, pure, common sense that applies to everyone.

T.A.


And there we have the problem in a nutshell.

You'll give your daughter advice on how to avoid being raped (probably forgetting to warn her that most rapes are perpetrated by someone the victim knows), but it hasn't occurred to you to talk to your son about consent.
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Message 1564953 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 14:49:39 UTC - in response to Message 1563382.  

Lets assume you are right and that all men can't help but rape.

All? Your word, not mine.

Then rather than putting the onus on woman to police them selves lets start treating men as the animals you seem to think they are. Men should not be allowed out without a chaperone.

Glad you are calling for that. It will work just as well as Islam where women can't be out alone.

I'm not calling for that Gary, because I don't agree with your premise that men can't help being rapists.

If you want to realize the biology, then study why penis and vagina developed as opposed to the many other methods different animals - yes we are an animal - use. Tell me is rape even possible with some of the other methods? Take that as a big clue to the answer to your question. None of this makes it right, it only addresses why it exists and why it is impossible to 100% prevent.

<ed>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_insemination

I think I've already told you that I have concerns about sociobiology, so you may as well stop banging that drum.
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Message 1564987 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 16:08:14 UTC - in response to Message 1564952.  

but it hasn't occurred to you to talk to your son about consent.

Surely having to do that shows you haven't raised the son correctly in the first place.
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