Stop making 'health' excuses for why we use birth control
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Now that's a great report. Reading though, it threw up a scary thought...

"To conservatives, contraception is not about health – it's about sex, their fear of sex, and a panic over women having sex that doesn't lead to babies."

So once the woman's fertility end, the men stop having sex? Just for argument's sake, let's pick an age range for that fertility - 18 to 40.

No sex after 40? Damn, no wonder the world is in a mess! Their own women infertile & not enough babies: - so go out & rape?

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"To conservatives, contraception is not about health – it's about sex, their fear of sex, and a panic over women having sex that doesn't lead to babies."

How do you figure that? The Holy Father wants Catholic men to know their wives and be fruitful.

Rev. Batter Up does not approve of North American prophylactics as it is against his beliefs.

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& if that nice dutiful catholic wife cannot have children?

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& if that nice dutiful catholic wife cannot have children?

It's the will of g-d.

Hebrews 11:11
And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise.

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& if that nice dutiful catholic wife cannot have children?

It's the will of g-d.

Hebrews 11:11
And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise.

But I thought god made us in his image? If one woman can have children, why can't another?

Not a loving or caring god then is he/she/it?

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But I thought god made us in his image? If one woman can have children, why can't another?

Not a loving or caring god then is he/she/it?

The Lord works in mysterious ways.

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Some light relief in a serious thread...

Ask the sexpert

...at least he is doing what he can to change misconceptions (but some of the questions are hilarious) :-)

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And in contrast for some great pain across one swathe of the world for women to deny them the pleasure of sex:


Anatomy of female genital mutilation

The world could put a stop to female genital mutilation (FGM) within a generation, international leaders and campaigners say. (This report contains graphic descriptions of the practices involved).

The ambitious pledge to end FGM comes from a UK summit dedicated to the topic... So what is FGM, and why is it still being carried out on millions of women and girls around the world?...



Makes you wonder what the men do with themselves!

Ouch on both sides! :-(

An old piece of misogyny that is long overdue to be cut out...


All in our only one world,
Martin

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Anatomy of female genital mutilation

In societies where FGM is commonplace, a woman can bring shame on herself and her family if she does not comply. Some see it as a religious necessity - though no scriptures explicitly prescribe it.

The Qur'an says; “Trim, but do not cut into it, for this is brighter for the face (of the girl) and more favorable with the husband.”

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Anatomy of female genital mutilation

In societies where FGM is commonplace, a woman can bring shame on herself and her family if she does not comply. Some see it as a religious necessity - though no scriptures explicitly prescribe it.

The Qur'an says; “Trim, but do not cut into it, for this is brighter for the face (of the girl) and more favorable with the husband.”

Hence the traditional shaving of hair.

There is nothing in there about painful mutilation that is of no benefit for husband or wife.


Very silly painful extremes.

How do we educate the world to better things and to throw out the corruption of old?


All in our only one world,
Martin

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Surprised no one has posted on this in the UK, it's been in the news for a day or so.

FGM summit: Cameron calls for end 'in this generation'

Doctors, social workers and teachers to be legally obliged to report FGM

What about MGM? Baby boys are genitally mutilated daily and not a word.

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What about MGM? Baby boys are genitally mutilated daily and not a word.

You are free to talk about that in a thread about injustices against all men. I will back you up there...as the mother of two sons I feel quite strongly about that one.

However, this thread is about injustices against women.

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What about MGM? Baby boys are genitally mutilated daily and not a word.

You are free to talk about that in a thread about injustices against all men. I will back you up there...as the mother of two sons I feel quite strongly about that one.

However, this thread is about injustices against women.

So you admit men and women are different. I thought you were a feminist. Take your test again.

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What about MGM? Baby boys are genitally mutilated daily and not a word.

You are free to talk about that in a thread about injustices against all men. I will back you up there...as the mother of two sons I feel quite strongly about that one.

However, this thread is about injustices against women.

So you admit men and women are different. I thought you were a feminist. Take your test again.

Do you want a lesson in what feminism is? Because it looks like you really need one.

This thread is about women. It is typical that places that carved out for discussion of women's issues are often taken over or sidelined by men. However, it certainly looks like the rest of forum is dealing quite nicely with men's issues. I do not think you being sidelined in anyway by being asked to take your complaint about male circumcision to another thread where it can be discussed freely without taking over a discussion on women's issues.

I would consider starting a thread to explain feminism to you and deal with your obvious misconceptions, but I fear Lewis's law and do not think I am ready to take on a topic where I am so obviously going to be insulted and possibly threatened (yes, it has happened before)

However, right there is an example of how women's voices are silenced. How fitting.

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What about MGM? Baby boys are genitally mutilated daily and not a word.

There is one difference - FGM can make normal functions, like urination, very, very painful, even in a "mature" women. As for conception & child birth - I'll not go into the detail here, its just too horrific for this audience. However MGM has no such side effects.

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I do not think you being sidelined in anyway by being asked to take your complaint about male circumcision to another thread where it can be discussed freely without taking over a discussion on women's issues.

Of course you are right. I should have said human type 1 genital mutilation.

Do you think all human beings are equal?

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I do not think you being sidelined in anyway by being asked to take your complaint about male circumcision to another thread where it can be discussed freely without taking over a discussion on women's issues.

Of course you are right. I should have said human type 1 genital mutilation.

Do you think all human beings are equal?

Equal, but not the same.

I am totally opposed to male circumcision and think it is a terrible practice that should be stopped. Again, that is a discussion for elsewhere which I would be happy to have with you in another thread. It is probably more controversial than the obvious claim that female circumcision is a vile practice that should be stopped as the consequences are far worse.

The two are not equivalent.

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Marissa Alexander Is Denied New Hearing; Still Faces 60 Years in Prison

She would have been better off if she'd killed him :/

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